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Alan Barnett:
We get all kinds of requests from people who are writing books, people who are doing genealogy, and then sometimes it's just people who are even writing their own personal history and they need to go back at verified date. Sometimes there are people who need evidence of having lived a certain place at a certain time.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. It could offer a window into the past for you or a loved one when it comes to your good old school days, dating back to 1890 and even before. It houses historical gems dating back to the formation of Jordan School District and beyond. On this episode of the Supercast, join us as we take a walk down memory lane at the Utah State Archive and Records Service. Find out what we uncover about Jordan School District's rich history as a school district and what you might be able to discover about your own time in one of our schools many, many years ago.

We are here at the Utah State Archives with Alan Barnett talking a little bit about the history of Jordan School District and education in Utah. Alan, thanks for taking time today.

Alan Barnett:
Glad to be here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell us a little bit about yourself and about the Utah State Archive.

Alan Barnett:
So I've worked here at the State Archives for about 23 years. Before that, I worked at the State Historical Society. So I'm really interested in Utah history and interested in records and preserving that history and the records that have been created over time about the state. The State Archives is a government agency, state government agency, that has the task of preserving historic records of government in the state of Utah. And so that includes everybody from the governor, the legislature, UDOT, Department of Health, all the state agencies, plus the State Board of Education. So on the state level but then also local agencies, local state agencies or government agencies, which would include cities, towns, counties, school districts and other special service districts.

Anthony Godfrey:
Today we're going to go over some of the physical files that you have, documents. As I recall at a certain point we can send documents to you to store. Is that right?

Alan Barnett:
Yes, in fact state law states that records that have historic value and not all do and so some records get destroyed after a certain period of time. Your, you know, accounts payable, that kind of stuff have a retention that where they're destroyed after a certain period of time. But the records that have permanent historical value, the law states that they can stay in the agency that created them, but once the agency no longer needs those records, then they are to go to the State Archives. That we are the place that they that they are supposed to go. So those are the only two places that those records should be. Sometimes they leak out and get other places, but that's what the law stipulates. So yeah, when the school districts gets to a point, this often happens when a school closes or when a school is being torn down and replaced. That's a time when they'll go through their records and contact us and say, “We have all these old records. Can you take them?” And we are obligated by law to take on those records and take on the preservation and access to those records.

Anthony Godfrey:
What are some of the types of documents that have to be preserved forever? There are, I know there are lots that have nine years or a certain number of years where you can destroy them after about a decade, but my recollection is that grades and attendance have to be kept permanently. Is that correct?

Alan Barnett:
Yes, so school board minutes, which you know sort of tell that that overall view of what's happening in the school district, those are kept permanently but student records are another important record that need to be kept permanently so that there's a record of a person's education, their experience, their experience going through school and then. So we'll often keep roll books which track students where they went to school when.

Anthony Godfrey:
So, when a teacher says, “This is part of your permanent record,” that means something in the state of Utah?

Alan Barnett:
Yes yes yeah because it will end up it will end up here and you know and you can come look at it. While those records are restricted for a period of time because of privacy concerns, at some point your grandchildren can come we'll be able to come look at them.

Anthony Godfrey:
They're gonna know what your seventh grade physical education grade was second quarter. They can check that out? Okay, think twice. So talk to me about the physical facility before we get into some specific documents. If all these entities can send you their documents, where do they get stored and how?

Alan Barnett:
So we have a pretty large storage facility here.

Anthony Godfrey:
It is kind of like Raiders of the Lost Ark where you go in and there all those these boxes and you'll never find . . .

Alan Barnett:
Well, our goal is that you can actually find it, but it is a big room full of boxes except that the boxes have all been bar coded and they're in the computer. So if I'm looking, and that's what I did this morning as I went in and I did a little bit of searching, and said “what do we have from Jordan School District?” and then I can say, “well I want these box, this boxes with these barcodes. We actually have a robot system that will pull those from the shelving and so I asked someone to pull a couple boxes that we could look at it so yeah so they are . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
You said we asked someone. You mean your robot co-workers?

Alan Barnett:
Yeah, the person who runs the robot. Okay, I want these I want these boxes and they'll punch that in. The robot will go on lift the shelf units off. I can show you . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
It is kind of exciting that the robot got these documents for us. Are we gonna visit with the robot? Will we get a picture with the robot?

Alan Barnett:
Yeah, absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
Let’s go get a picture with the robot.

Alan Barnett:
Yeah, I think when we get down here we can go and I'll show you the robot because it is interesting to see.

Anthony Godfrey:
What's her name?

Alan Barnett:
There have been discussions about names, but no names have stuck.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh okay, all right. We're gonna change that. We're naming the robots today. It's gonna happen, naming the robots.

Alan Barnett:
Yeah so it is interesting, it's kind of a high-tech way of storing but it's a it allows us to do very compact storage and get a lot of records stored in a small space.

Anthony Godfrey:
And still be able to retrieve them

Alan Barnett:
And still be able to retrieve them.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, I have one more question before we get into the specific documents. Talk to me about some of the more out of the ordinary requests that you've had for records.

Alan Barnett:
You know we get all kinds of requests from people who are writing books, people who are doing genealogy, we get a lot of genealogy requests, and then sometimes it's just people who were maybe even writing their own personal history, and they need to go back and verify dates. It's funny, a couple of weeks ago, we had somebody contact us who was looking for exactly when she went to middle school and she had a bet with her parents . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh wow.

Alan Barnett:
Yes, she insisted that she was in middle school in sixth grade, and they did not think so. I was a little bit surprised that the parents would think that they would remember better than she did because who doesn't remember what school they were in.

Anthony Godfrey:
Right.

Alan Barnett:
And so she wanted her sixth grade school record. Sure enough, she was right; she was in middle school.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you're settling bets, you're bringing families together.

Alan Barnett:
Yeah,

Anthony Godfrey:
Connecting people with their progenitors. That's perfect. Okay, so let's take a look at some of the documents that you pulled. Oh, excuse me, the robots pulled today.

Alan Barnett:
Yes

Anthony Godfrey:
Let's see what you have here.

Alan Barnett:
So the oldest thing that I could see right off was some roll books from the 1890s, and these are from Herriman School.

Anthony Godfrey:
From Herriman School in the 1890’s. Now that this predates Jordan School District.

Alan Barnett:
It actually predates Jordan School District but then Herriman School becomes part of the school district once the school district is formed. So the school district inherited these records

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. So this is from 1892 to 1893 and 1893 to 94 attendance records.

Alan Barnett:
You can see it's a standardized book published by the state and so all the schools and I've seen these same these same books used schools throughout the state.

Anthony Godfrey:
J. S. Borman was apparently the Commissioner of Schools in Ogden, Utah and then. . . .

Alan Barnett:
It'll have the school, the teacher's name.

Anthony Godfrey:
Edward Orgall O- R-G-A-L-L, and there's. . .

Alan Barnett:
And there's all the students, a little bit doodling, yeah that’s always fun to see.

Anthony Godfrey:
That is some fancy handwriting.

Alan Barnett:
Yes really lovely.

Anthony Godfrey:
It took some time on that.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow names of pupils, pupils they were pupils, huh? Branches pursued. That's fascinating, and the age of the students 10, 13, 7, 6, got them all mixed together here at Herriman School.

Alan Barnett:
Yeah, I don't know Herriman, Herriman would have been a pretty small school.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Alan Barnett:
November . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
They write that the date in a whole sentence, November the 10^th, 1893. Wow, huh.

Alan Barnett:
Then you can see their attendance.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now what's interesting here is you look at the information and it says the name of pupil and then it says color: W, B or I are the color options for each student. And of non-Mormon parents or of Mormon parents.

Alan Barnett:
It's really interesting at this time and I'm not sure exactly why but they're tracking who comes from Mormon families and who doesn't I'm not sure why they why they're collecting that information but during the 1890s they are.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well it's printed right in the book, like when the book was produced, these are categories that were printed as a part of the template.

Alan Barnett:
It's because the state or rather the territory at this point in time.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, territory of Utah not a territory of Utah.

Alan Barnett:
Yes, they they want to gather that information.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, and they also ask “can read and write, yes or no.” There's a column for can read or write, and write oh lots of yeses here. Good job yeah, Jordan School District that isn’t Jordan School District yet. Wow okay that's really something. Let's see, let's pull out an individual student, Clara Farmer, 12 years old, really good attendance. Good job Clara. Huh. Well everybody's gone who is in this book, that's for sure. Huh. Wow, okay very interesting. This book may not be requested for some time to come but I'm really glad . . .  oh Richard Farmer, maybe that's his, that's her older brother. Lots and lots with the last name Farmer. This is amazing.

Alan Barnett:
Yeah but if if I were interested in writing a history of Herriman or the schools in Herriman, this would be a really helpful source if I were doing genealogy and wanted to know if my great grandparents had been attending school this would give me some information about them.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow and what's interesting here is that I don't see a page where they have marked whether they are of Mormon parents or not. Oh wait, there is one; there is one where they've marked that, interesting. Okay, stay with us when we come back; we'll meet the robot that helps the workers at the Utah archive access old records.

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Anthony Godfrey:
What else do we have here?

Alan Barnett:
Well, so we have a collection of these going up, actually I didn't bring all of them out, but we have them going up quite a ways. I mean this gets into 1910-1911. I don't remember when Jordan School District was formed but . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, that was in 1905, so this was Jordan School District at this point.

Alan Barnett:
Yes at this point then Herriman School had become part of . . . Prior to that time it would have operated its own school with its own school board, just locally in Herriman.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, okay now . . .

Alan Barnett:
and then they consolidate all the schools into a larger school district.

Anthony Godfrey:
So it's called a Utah School Register and now we have jumped forward in time to 1910 the 1910-11 school year and it looks like Miss Davis is the teacher, and there are scores, The Scholarship Record it's called, for all of these different subjects. Here are the subjects reading, writing, spelling, language, geography, arithmetic, history, science, drawing, music, and hygiene. So hygiene scores were pretty high. Oh wait no, there are no hygiene scores. Okay, maybe she skipped that. Then there's a category promoted, demoted, retained, or graduated so not only could you retain someone, you could send them back, like “look third grade didn't go well we're sending it back to second,”

Alan Barnett:
It's interesting to see in that time period how many children were retained, means kept in the same grade, or occasionally demoted and it all depended on reaching a certain standard to move on and that's not done very much any these days. But it was it was really common at the time and sometimes . .

Anthony Godfrey:
It’s been brought back. The law has changed and in a few years for reading scores a student can be retained by law.

Alan Barnett:
This was, it was a way to make sure that students were achieving a certain level before they moved on. I think sometimes, especially in rural communities you would have you might have some of the kids who would miss enough school that they just wouldn't progress enough, you know, they might be at home working on the farm or that sort of thing.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, I hope it isn't a breach of FERPA and privacy laws to say that Golda Butterfield in 1911 was retained for the third grade by Estella Davis, her teacher.

Alan Barnett:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
And it looks like the low score is in language; she did pretty well otherwise, so you know hopefully Golda . . .

Alan Barnett:
Yeah. So they were evaluating the students every year to determine whether they were ready to move on.

Anthony Godfrey:
Priscilla Tempest repeated fourth grade it looks like, but Emma Crump and or Ogerita Eastman also got promoted from fourth to fifth grade.

Alan Barnett:
We have some more recent ones and here again, it's these are roll books published by the state, so they're all uniform and I've seen these from schools all over the state in this same format, but this is Mount Jordan Junior High which is now,  which is now part of the Canyon School District, but at this point in time in the 1950s it was part of Jordan School District.

Anthony Godfrey:
1954-1955. The year of James Dean. James Dean died in 1955, and we've got personal and general information for advisory period.

Alan Barnett:
So in this case you can see they've got all the students listed, they've got where they live, they’ve got who their parent or guardian is, what grade they're in.

Anthony Godfrey:
Date of birth yeah so there is a lot of good information here. More than, more so than when you go back to the 1800s. Ninth grade English Donna May Allsop is the teacher.

Alan Barnett:
It also is a good way to track down someone who was a teacher, so if you have an ancestor, if you're researching somebody who was a teacher, then you know you'll be able to find their names in in these and what grades they were teaching, or if it's in high school, what subjects they were teaching.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's pretty amazing to go back and look at the level of detail. I mean obviously it was the grade book, yeah but I mean all the names are typed in here so they and it's a little three-ring binder. The other books were quite large with hardbacks and kind of bound, kind of a hard binding but a very thin book. This is a let's see three-six-nine ring binder with kind of graph paper and all the names are typed on here.

Alan Barnett:
I think they're really dependent on the teacher. You see some teachers who are very particular about their record-keeping and some that are less.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, the UEA convention October 7th and 8^th-50s, there's the UEA convention October 7^th and 8th. Yeah,

Alan Barnett:
I remember I remember having school off for UEA convention when I was . .

Anthony Godfrey:
September 21st was Fair Day apparently, so you can also . . .  Boy, look at this attendance, grades. Looks like they had book reports and spelling and daily prep, and punctuation, capitals, and the library unit. This is when my dad would have been in high school actually, and this is middle school here.

Alan Barnett:
We have a bunch of records from Ogden School District as well and they're gonna . . . what we have depends on sort of what the school district or the school that decides they need to clear out and hopefully they know about us and that we can take those records on and they'll pass them on to us and so that's what's happened with these records. Well, let me just say so if people are interested what we have here is a is generally available to the public. There are some restrictions as you know FERPA puts restrictions on what you can see when but eventually things get old enough that none of that applies and they're just open to the public. But if you are interested in looking to some into some of this stuff, you just need to contact our research staff at our archives research at Utah.gov and then you set an appointment and come in, and you can request if you want records from a particular school, you can request those records and take a look at them. Sometimes if you're just looking for your own information, you have a right to see that, and so you we can get your copies of that. You can't, you may not if they're not old enough, you may not be able to get information about other students that would be redacted, but you could get your own record because you have a right to see that. Sometimes there are people who need evidence of having lived a certain place at a certain time. I see especially recently under RECA, the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act. We have had a big influx of people who are looking for their school records because they need to prove that they were living in Utah during these years when there was these nuclear tests going on.

Anthony Godfrey:
This is fascinating. Thank you very much for sharing.

Alan Barnett:
It’s fun to be able to share with you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Let's walk out and let's take a look out in the warehouse, the storage facility. Okay, okay so we're walking into the oh it has a smell of us of an old documents.

Alan Barnett:
Yeah, you may smell some old documents. There are a lot of them here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, it's cool, and it's cool.

Alan Barnett:
Yeah, so we keep it at 60 degrees because that keeping it a cooler temperature helps preserve the records longer. So the robot right now is shuffling. The shelving units are three deep, so to get to the one third back, you have to shuffle; you have to pull out the two in front of it and the robot knows all that and so it will pull out the two in front of it and then pull out the one that you want, bring it down and then will shuffle those in front back, back in in front of the bay that you asked for. We have over 50,000 boxes I think approaching 60,000 currently, and we regularly get more virtually every day. More and more things come in.

Anthony Godfrey:
Based on the work that we just saw, first of all, I would be very grateful for those robots. They do that; that's it that's amazing they take good care of the records. Here comes another set of boxes. Wow, high level of precision, but based on the work we're seeing right now, I'm gonna name this robot Penelope. I think Penelope is a nod to historical records. You know, it's an older name but still full of whimsy, so I'm gonna say Penelope. Thank you, Penelope. Thanks for your help. Well, this has been very enlightening. Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to talk with you today, and thank you for taking care of our records all the way back.

Alan Barnett:
You are welcome.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, “Education is the most important thing you'll do today!” We'll see you out there.

Stacy Evans:
So we try to help our students figure out what will work best.

Anthony Sandoval:
Support's amazing. It's very, very friendly, open arms, and they're here for you.

Stacy Evans:
Some of them end up doing live classes and are much more successful. Sometimes they do one of the online courses that has video embedded because that's a little easier for them, so we try to match it to the needs.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. Every year, hundreds of students in Jordan's School District are finding a personal path to success that works specifically for them, whether they are working toward a high school diploma or GED. On this episode of the Supercast, find out how Southpointe Adult High School adapts education to meet individual needs by offering flexible schedules and the kind of learning that's making dreams come true for students 16 years and older who decide to enroll. Listen in and hear just one of many success stories happening at the school's JATC North Campus every single year.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're here at Southpointe High School talking with the principal about this program. Introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about Southpointe.

Stacy Evans:
So I'm Stacy Evans and I am the administrator that's in charge of Southpointe Adult Education Program. Our adult education program is a little bit unique, but there are several of them throughout the state. Our program has options for students to earn a high school diploma. They can either do it by taking and passing the GED test or we also have credit options, so they can fill in the gaps in the transcript they already have and complete that. One of the really neat things about Southpointe is we have lots of different modalities for them to do that. They can work on in-person classes live in the evenings. They can use packet-based content and then test over that to make sure they've learned it. They can also do online options. We have a little bit of variety there. We use Edge Annuity software, but we also have our own in-house courses that we've done in Canvas.

Anthony Godfrey:
It sounds like there's just a wide variety of options that can really match whatever an individual student prefers.

Stacy Evans:
Absolutely. I feel like that's our strength here at Southpointe. In addition, we also have English Language Acquisition courses. And a lot of our students will come in, so it would be newcomers to the country or people who just haven't had an opportunity to learn the language yet. They come to us, we offer four different levels, and so they can start wherever they happen to be. We assess and see where they need to be and then place them. It's a great opportunity for them to learn those English language skills that might be holding them back from other opportunities.

Anthony Godfrey:
How many people would you say you serve overall? How many students in the course of a year? And what percentage are participating online versus in person or a blend? You just give us a sense for how many people participate and in what ways?

Stacy Evans:
So it's typically about 1,500 students a year that enroll with us at various times.

Anthony Godfrey:
It is a lot.

Stacy Evans:
It is a lot. And sometimes they come and go. One of the other unique things about an adult education program is that the seasons of people's lives happen. Sometimes they'll work for a time and then they have to leave us for whatever reason. But many of them return and complete it. So they might have multiple enrollments, but they still do it and that's what's important.

Anthony Godfrey:
The flexibility on your part is a key to making sure that people who have things happening in their lives that may be getting in the way still can gain access over time.

Stacy Evans:
Yes, and we try to help our students figure out what will work best. I've had students that were trying to do all of it sort of at home on their own with these packet-based options and things like that. And they weren't being successful and so we talked about, “OK, what's a different way of doing the same thing?” Some of them end up doing live classes and are much more successful. Sometimes they do one of the online courses that has video embedded because that's a little easier for them. So we try to match it to the needs.

Anthony Godfrey:
Good. That's awesome. So 1500 over the course of the year, what does the faculty look like? You have teachers hired who teach elsewhere in the District. Talk to us about what your faculty looks like.

Stacy Evans:
Yes, that's exactly right. So we have one counselor/teacher that is always on staff in our learning center during the days. Then in the evenings we have some teachers who float over and staff the learning center so that students who are working on some of those other types of options that are not in person can come and get help and support when they need it.

Anthony Godfrey:
So float over means they come from the school where they've been teaching by day and then they come over to continue in the evening.

Stacy Evans:
Exactly right. And that's the same thing that happens with our evening live classes. We have those teachers, whether it's the English language learning classes or the high school diploma-based courses. Our teachers, they work in the District all day long and then they come over here and work with adults. And they seldom leave us because they absolutely love working with the adult learners. So it's really a win-win.

Anthony Godfrey:
Everyone here has chosen to be here and has a goal, wants to improve their situation.

Stacy Evans:
Yes, and I think that goal-oriented nature just really makes it a lot of fun to teach them because they really care about what they're trying to do.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now I understand that you have had some students who are doing this much later in life. Is that right?

Stacy Evans:
Absolutely. Our oldest student currently is 84 years old.

Anthony Godfrey:
84 years. It's never too late. I think that's awesome. Talk to me more about her.

Stacy Evans:
Yeah, so she's great. She's been just coming over and taking some courses kind of at a slow pace, just wanting to get some of that done that she didn't get done initially and see if she can't earn that diploma and be a good example. She says she wants to be that example for her grandkids.

Anthony Godfrey:
I love that. That's really cool. I'm sure you have many stories over the years about people who have really had a second chance through this school.

Stacy Evans:
Absolutely. Yeah, we had another student that had come in. She was trying to do her nursing degree, but of course she can't start work on that nursing degree without the high school diploma. So she came to us with a real sense of urgency because it was so important to her to do that. She had children and needed to provide better for her family. And so we got her to the finish line with our diploma and then she went on to her program.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wonderful. What I remember, our completion rate is high. We have a high completion rate compared with the rest of the state. How do we compare?

Stacy Evans:
We do have a higher completion rate. Our students, because of I think the model that we have that's more flexible, it lends itself to students who can't necessarily go to an all-in-person program. And so that gives us the opportunity to help them get there a little more quickly, kind of like Anthony said earlier.

Anthony Godfrey:
So tell me what's the range? What's the shortest time some people spend with us and still earn a diploma? And what's the longest time that you've seen?

Stacy Evans:
That is a great question and I'm not really sure of the answer, honestly. I know that some though, well I could say, I know that some students do come over the summer, especially some of ours who were just seniors in high school, and they will come over to just finish it off because they didn't quite make it. And they'll finish before the end of the summer many times.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, good. Tell me who qualifies to come to Southpointe?

Stacy Evans:
So anyone 16 years of age and older who is not currently enrolled in a traditional K-12 high school can take part in our high school or GED program. And then for the English Language Acquisition Program, we start at age 18.

Anthony Godfrey:
So that's, if you want to learn English, age 18 is the starting age for that?

Stacy Evans:
Correct. We feel like philosophically it's better for them to stay with their K-12 program because there are a lot more supports that they can have in that program. So we encourage them at age 18 then if they still need to acquire English language, come see us.

Anthony Godfrey:
And for those who are listening, not sitting right here with us, you are located on the Jordan Applied Technology Center campus, which is on the Salt Lake Community College campus at about 9000 South and Bangerter.

Stacy Evans:
That's absolutely right. And we not only take students who live within the Jordan School District boundaries, but as an adult education program in the state of Utah, we all take students from anywhere in the surrounding area.

Anthony Godfrey:
Talk to us about funding sources for Southpointe High School.

Stacy Evans:
So Southpointe Adult High is funded entirely by a grant from the State Board of Education.

Anthony Godfrey:
You and I have talked previously about the value of the program. Tell us about the details of just what's required of a student if they decide they want to sign up.

Stacy Evans:
So when a student first comes to us to enroll, the only fee involved for high school or for GED is $25. And we just charge $25 per quarter, not per course. They can take as many courses as they can get through in that time frame. Then for the English Language Acquisition, they pay $25 per session. There are three sessions during the year and then another $25 textbook fee because we give them a consumable text.

Anthony Godfrey:
So that is a great bargain. $25 a quarter, as many classes as you can manage.

Stacy Evans:
Exactly. And I feel like, you know, that's a great opportunity.

Stacy Evans:
The other thing is, if somebody has a real hardship, we'll talk about it and look at whether that fee might be waivable.

Anthony Godfrey:
We'll include the details in the show notes, but tell us how does someone get signed up and what's the schedule for signing up for Southpointe?

Stacy Evans:
So because we have all those flexible options that can be started at any time, a student can come and sign up and enroll with us at any time for our high school courses or for the GED prep. Then for the English Language Acquisition program, our students come at the beginning of each session. So we have windows of time at the beginning of each of those three sessions. They all run during the regular school year. And the reason we only have three sessions is because what we have found is during those holiday periods of time, from about mid-November to end of, well, beginning of January, we don't, we're not able to get as many of those students coming. I don't know if they're going home to visit loved ones and then returning to us here in Utah, but whatever it is, we try to accommodate the needs and so we don't offer during that time.

Anthony Godfrey:
Great. Talk to me about earning credit for classes that are required for graduation versus the GED route.

Stacy Evans:
Okay. So the GED route is basically a series of tests that students take. And there's one in each of the four core areas of mathematics, language arts, science, and social studies. And so they have to pass each of those tests. So in our program, we give them an online resource that they can learn with. And then we have live sessions with teachers, with licensed teachers. And so during those sessions, they have an opportunity to work on content, ask questions. Sometimes students will work a lot independently and just come and ask their questions during those sessions. And some students will come and try to get as much as they can during the sessions themselves.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you're either preparing for the tests that will allow you to get your GED, or you're taking courses that will fulfill the requirements you are missing in order to receive a diploma.

Stacy Evans:
Exactly. And they receive, when they receive a diploma for earning the credits, they actually earn a Southpointe Adult Education diploma. When they get the GED, they earn a diploma from the State.

Anthony Godfrey:
I see. Okay. Great. Well, I love that we have this option available. And it's been around for a long time, but we've appreciated having your school perspective as well as the administrator over the school here. And one last question. Do you have openings? Because it sounds like a great place to work.

Stacy Evans:
We don't currently have openings, but that does happen from time to time.

Anthony Godfrey:
Like you said, people stay once they come here.

Stacy Evans:
They do stay once they come here. And as far as our staff positions and those openings, those actually get posted in the same way that Jordan School District, all of the schools post.

Anthony Godfrey:
Great. Well, thank you very much. Thanks again for the time and for everything you do to support our community.

Stacy Evans:
Thank you. I appreciate you highlighting Southpointe.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us. When we come back, we'll learn more about Southpointe Adult High School.

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Female Voice:
They're out on the job in the rain, sleet, snow, ice, and in the sunshine. As Jordan School District students navigate their way to and from school every day, we are truly grateful for our city crossing guards, always vigilant and looking out for students to ensure everyone's safety. Because they work so hard protecting our kids, let's give those crossing guards a hand. If you're driving near or around schools, slow down, pay attention, watch for students and staff, and follow instructions from the school crossing guards. And know our cities are always looking to hire crossing guards. If you like kids and need some flexible hours, contact your local city and apply to be a crossing guard today. Together, let's make this a safe and successful school year.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're talking now with one of the students here at Southpointe. Introduce yourself, please.

Anthony Sandoval:
Hi, I'm Anthony Sandoval. I'm one of the students at Southpointe Adult High School.

Anthony Godfrey:
And you work for the District as well. Tell me about your job.

Anthony Sandoval:
I'm a janitor/utility specialist where I work on all sorts of things like fixing light bulbs, cleaning stairs, floors, vacuuming, and all that stuff.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you kind of do whatever needs to be done when you're here. And what shift do you work?

Anthony Sandoval:
From one to five during the summer.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me, how is it that you heard about Southpointe and decided to come here?

Anthony Sandoval:
Well, I dropped out of a different program and switched to this program and now I'm getting my stuff done faster here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Talk to me about the support from teachers and from the school and helping you cross the finish line.

Anthony Sandoval:
I would say the support's amazing. It's very, very friendly, open arms, and they're here for you.

Anthony Godfrey:
I understand that you're graduating soon. Is that right? When is that taking place?

Anthony Sandoval:
A rough estimate of  December to January.

Anthony Godfrey:
What stands between you and completion?

Anthony Sandoval:
Math, language arts, and civics.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you've got a few of our core classes remaining?

Anthony Sandoval:
Two credits.

Anthony Godfrey:
Two credits. Okay, great. And how many credits have you already earned at Southpointe?

Anthony Sandoval:
A total of four.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, that's awesome.

Anthony Sandoval:
I started at six and now I'm down to two.

Anthony Godfrey:
And do you live in Jordan School District?

Anthony Sandoval:
I live within the boundaries.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, awesome. I'm really excited to hear that you're not only an employee but a student as well. How has it felt to be a student at Southpointe?

Anthony Sandoval:
I'd say the experience is very awesome. Everyone's kind, friendly, and if you need help they're here for you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Of the classes you've taken here, what's your favorite?

Anthony Sandoval:
I would have to say history.

Anthony Godfrey:
History?

Student:
And science with Vanessa.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, awesome. Is there a type of science or an era of history that you're most interested in?

Anthony Sandoval:
Definitely World War II.

Anthony Godfrey:
World War II.  Yeah, there's a good group of you that are particularly interested in World War II. That's awesome. Great. What would you say to anyone considering whether they ought to come to Southpointe to complete their high school diploma?

Anthony Sandoval:
Just work hard and get your stuff done.

Anthony Godfrey:
And it's worth trying out?

Anthony Sandoval:
It's worth trying out.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, great. Well, it's wonderful to meet you, Anthony, and I appreciate you taking the time.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, “Education is the most important thing you will do today!” We'll see you out there.

Marty:
We do the electrical repair whatever for over 70 buildings and growing in the school district.

Ian:
We are dealing with over a million square feet of buildings districtwide. Every day is different.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Jake:
There's, you could do the same job and it's not the same as the last one, so.

Anthony Godfrey:
And just as I've been over here, you have great people to work with too.

Jake:
Yeah, there's, yeah maintenance is all great.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. School may be out for the summer, but there is little to no rest for District crews working hard to make repairs, upgrade facilities, conduct overall maintenance, and basically make schools sparkle and shine for the upcoming school year. On this episode of the Supercast, we talk with employees tackling some monumental tasks over the summer months. Find out about the work they do and how we all benefit when the sun sets on summer and students are back to the books.

Anthony Godfrey:
Alright, we're talking today with Jake out here at Oak Crest Elementary. Jake, tell us a little bit about what you do here in Jordan School District.

Jake:
I do everything with water and drainage.

Anthony Godfrey:
And there's a lot of water and drainage in all of these buildings.

Jake:
Everything runs on water and drainage in these buildings.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're standing in the kindergarten area of the building or the first-grade area where you might remember, those listening, there's a sink in every elementary classroom and so there's a lot of work for folks like Jake to try to prepare us for the year to come. Tell us a little bit about what you've been working on this summer at Oak Crest.

Jake:
At Oak Crest, they replaced all of the countertops in this purple area, and we're just replacing the sink. Took the sinks out and now we're replacing them with new.

Anthony Godfrey:
We were talking a little bit about the new parts. The new parts have less brass than they used to.

Jake:
Very much. Brass is not cheap nowadays so putty's cheaper than brass.

Anthony Godfrey:
So we need to fill the base of the faucet going in to be filled with some putty. I'm the designated putty buddy today so let's get to it. Let's check it out. Alright, we're opening it up here. Pulling out the faucet. Sorry I'm slowing you down here. Nothing helps install a faucet like a superintendent with a microphone. That's right.

Jake:
Oh, you can start warming the putty up.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, how do you warm the putty up?

Jake:
I knead it like dough.

Anthony Godfrey:
Knead it like dough. Alright. I'm not good at baking or plumbing, so I'll see what I can do. That's actually quite you know, satisfying.

Jake:
Like one of them one things. Yeah. Squishy.

Anthony Godfrey:
ASMR, you know.

Jake:
Then you pack it in there. This is the part they.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Jake:
This used to be brass.

Anthony Godfrey:
Do I need to warm it up more or does it seem.

Jake:
Just pack it in there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Pack it right in here?

Jake:
Right over this part here. Yep. Just fill it flush with the. . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh okay. Does it need to go around the . . .

Jake:
Yep.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh well. That's going to take a little bit of effort isn't it. So how long have, as I'm trying to pack this putty, how long have you worked for Jordan School District?

Jake:
14 years.

Anthony Godfrey:
14 years.

Jake:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. So you've seen some things.

Jake:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
You've responded to some emergencies.

Jake:
Yes many emergencies.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now when we record these podcasts at elementary schools, it seems like we cannot find a spot where you cannot hear a toilet flushing. It feels like there are bathrooms everywhere you turn.

Jake:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Does it feel like that? I bet it feels like that to you even more so.

Jake:
Yes there's . . .  I don't even know how many toilets. Never thought of that. There's probably . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
There are a lot of them.

Jake:
Yeah there's too many to count. Lots of things go down toilets especially . . .

Jake:
Yeah lots of things go down toilets, especially in elementary.

Jake:
Probably middle schools.

Anthony Godfrey:
Middle school is worse.

Jake:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
There are probably some people listening who are thinking, “Oh yeah, I remember what I put down the toilet in middle school or elementary school.”

Jake:
We're not going to name what they put down.

Anthony Godfrey:
Fair enough. Fair enough. We don't want to give them any ideas. But yes it does happen. Okay. I've done an initial job with the putty.

Jake:
Oh, let’s get you some more.

Anthony Godfrey:
More putty. I thought I was feeling this false sense of accomplishment here.

Jake:
We're almost done.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. All right. More putty. We have Scott Thomas here as well. Scott, talk to us about the way that we rely on our trades to keep the Jordan School District running.

S:
Yeah, thank you. As you know, we're service providers, and we deeply care about our teachers and our students and their well-being and there's just an awful lot to get to. Like I said we have we have well over a million square feet in the school district, and so all of our trades we rely on them to fix everything from air conditioning to, you know, the lights go out, plumbing emergencies, especially this time of year. HVAC is a very important thing in the middle of the summer, and if you don't have any electricity then you know you don't have any HVAC so we rely on them. We're busy our grounds crews are busy during the summer again just thousands of acres worth of schools to take you know school grounds to take care of. So again, a short period of time in the summer about nine weeks to get an awful lot done in preparation for the students and teachers to come back and get back to business.

Jake:
Little more.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay a little more.

Jake:
Pack it flush.

Anthony Godfrey:
Pack it flush. So I've got like maybe even a little more than flush. Okay, now is the problem that I'm hitting the threads there with it?

Jake:
Nope.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay all right good I was trying to avoid that that's why it's a little shallow. You know this does give a different sense of accomplishment than writing an email and sending it off. It's like okay the putty is in. It's water the water will flow soon.

Jake:
You want to kind of push out when you—  yeah you want to squish out the sides when you tighten it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh okay. Okay, so this is supposed to come out the sides when we tighten it down and kind of produce a seal there.

Jake:
It does.

Anthony Godfrey:
All right.

Jake:
For the sole purpose.

Anthony Godfrey:
All right.

Jake:
You want to do that part?

Anthony Godfrey:
Sure, I'll sling a crescent wrench. Let's see how it goes here. Is it adjusted?

Jake:
It's probably. Yeah it's right where it needs to be.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh no. I need a little more.

Jake:
I just guessed.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well that's a pretty close guess I'd say. Did you notice that I'm tightening it in the right direction first try?

Jake:
That is good. I'm impressed. You knew what side the cold was on and which way to turn a screw.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's the little wins you know. Now how tight do it?

Jake:
Righty tighty.

Anthony Godfrey:
Righty tighty. How tight do you want it? As tight as I can make it or?

Jake:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. We'll make it as tight as I can make it, and then we'll make it as tight as you can make it.

Jake:
I think you're doing great.

Anthony Godfrey:
I think those are going to be different things.

Jake:
I think you should come out every summer.

Anthony Godfrey:
I think I should. This will remind me of all of the very types of work that need to happen for us to be ready for these students to come back. Oh yeah, it's coming out right there in the middle.

Jake:
You haven't flipped it over yet. There's way more.

Anthony Godfrey:
You can. It won't hurt my feelings if you have to tighten that over.

Jake:
You're good. You tightened it good.

Anthony Godfrey:
That feels pretty good. Yeah. All right.

Jake:
Yeah so you just clean that up.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. This will provide a lot of post recess drinks. Leak free.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Jake:
Yep. I think I‘ve got it. Whoops. Oh it didn't stay straight. It was straight. It didn't stay straight.

Jake:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
I don't want those first graders. I don't want first graders to walk up to the sink and say, “Who did this?”

Jake:
You want to sign it? You can sign underneath it.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'll sign underneath it. Absolutely, I'll sign it. That sounds great.

Jake:
You can grab your marker.

Anthony Godfrey:
Superintendent Godfrey was here and I signed my first name.

Jake:
Should do the year, too.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh yeah.

Jake:
I'm going to tear this out.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh yeah. 2026. So when they tear it out they'll say, “Who was that guy?” Nobody will remember.

Jake:
That happens a lot around here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Do you see signatures when you tear stuff out? Really?

Jake:
Oh yeah. I found. Did you see? They found a . . .  what the class of '98 did in West Jordan High.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, in West Jordan High.

Jake:
Yeah. Did you see that?

Anthony Godfrey:
We heard about that. A rival school was mentioned. Let's just say that.

Jake:
Yes. Okay. Stuff like that.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for letting me sign.

Jake:
Yeah. No problem.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's really fun. So we're installing something new here. What are some of the other things that you do over the summer?

Jake:
We have a lot of sprinkler mainline breaks. We don't necessarily do the heads, but we do the broken pipes that burst and stuff, and there's never a shortage of them.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm sure.

Jake:
And summertime. Yeah, a lot of special projects and stuff like this. We have like two schools with this same project going on and bigger stuff. Stuff where kids aren't in is a lot.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm sure there's stuff you save up for when they're gone.

Jake:
Yes. Correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what are some of the emergencies? Are you on call for emergencies?

Jake:
Yep. We're on, each of us take on call for a week long. We had a mainline break out at Foothills this weekend.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh yeah.

Jake:
One of our guys had to go turn it off.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Jake:
But that's about all. Mostly the summer emergencies are main lines breaking.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. But with over 70 buildings, there are plenty of main lines that can break.

Jake:
Yes. Yeah we blow them out every year but they still tend to fall apart over time you know.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Jake:
Nothing lasts forever.

Anthony Godfrey:
Right. Thank you for everything you do.

Jake:
And you're welcome.

Anthony Godfrey:
This is important work that allows us to do what we do. And until you walk into an elementary school, you don't realize just how much plumbing is involved.

Jake:
Oh yeah. Yep. There's everything takes plumbing around these places.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's right.

Jake:
Lots of bottle fillers.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Lots of bottle fillers.

Jake:
That's right.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's a whole new thing in the last 10 years.

Jake:
Yes. And since COVID everyone wants bottle fillers now.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Well, everything changes.

Jake:
They're nice.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, they're nice but I'll bet they’re work. Tell me what do you like most about working here as a plumber in Jordan School District?

Jake:
Every day is different.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Jake:
There's — you could do the same job and it's not the same as the last one.

Anthony Godfrey:
So just as I've been over here you have great people to work with too.

Jake:
Yeah there's . . .  Yeah maintenance is all great.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Jake:
So I like everyone we work with.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well good. And you know we're always looking for folks and it's a great place to be. So well, thank you, Jake. Thanks for walking me through this.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us. When we come back, we talk with one of the electricians in the District working hard to prepare the building for students to return.

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Are you looking for a job right now? Looking to work in a fun and supportive environment with great pay and a rewarding career? Jordan School District is hiring. We're currently filling full and part time positions. You can work and make a difference in young lives and education as a classroom assistant or a substitute teacher. Apply to work in one of our school cafeterias where our lunch staff serves up big smiles with great food every day. We're also looking to hire custodians and bus drivers. In Jordan School District, we like to say people come for the job and enjoy the adventure. Apply today at employment.jordandistrict.org.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're talking today with Marty. Marty, introduce yourself and tell us about your responsibilities here in Jordan School District.

Marty:
Hi, I'm Marty Pixdon. I'm the senior electrical tech for the District. We do electrical repair for over 70 buildings and growing in the school district.

Anthony Godfrey:
Seventy buildings and growing isn't that true. Seventy buildings is a ton to be responsible for. Talk to me about within the trades how many electricians do we have in our District?

Marty:
We have eight in the field and including myself we have a total of nine electricians.

Anthony Godfrey:
A total of nine electricians. You get called night and day to help out with various issues. I know that in an emergency we rely on you guys, but also we rely just day to day to keep things up and running. Talk to us about some of the things you're doing over the summer. A lot of people wonder, “What does everybody do over the summer in a school district?” Talk to us about what the summer looks like for electricians.

Marty:
We do everything from small remodels to bigger repairs, remodels and we also maintenance to keep the building running. There's some stuff we can't get to full access during the school year because the classes so we make major repairs while the kids are away.

Anthony Godfrey:
Summer is a particularly busy time because we finally have clear buildings for you.

Marty:
That is correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
Seventy buildings, Ian tell us. We're here with Ian as well. Introduce yourself and tell us about just how many square feet we're taking care of here in Jordan School District.

Ian:
Hello, this is Ian Roberts, and I'm the director of Facility Services. We are dealing with over a million square feet of buildings District-wide.

Anthony Godfrey:
So anyone out there who has a sense for building maintenance understands that that's a time and it's high stakes when you have five-year-olds to 22-year-olds to preschoolers that we're taking care of and looking out for. There isn't a lot of slack would you say, Ian, when there's an emergency in terms of just electricity, water, making sure that our buildings are running.

Ian:
No definitely not at all and these guys are rock stars. They're here to take care of the put out the fires when they're burning, and they're keeping behind the scenes to make sure these buildings are fully functional for the students and staff.

Anthony Godfrey:
Talk to me, Marty, about your pathway to becoming an electrician in Jordan School District.

Marty:
I started my career right out of high school as an electrician. I've done multiple things for my life been fortunate enough that I've currently hold a master's license in electrical right now. That used to be in two states, but now I let one lapse because I don't want to work in Wyoming ever again.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, if it lapses then you never have to do that again, right? Talk to me about how long you've been in Jordan School District.

Marty:
I just finished nine years going into my tenth year now.

Anthony Godfrey:
And previous to that what type of work did you do?

Marty:
I've done all types of construction, electrical-wise, from schools all over the state to out of state. I've been doing this for roughly about 46 years now.

Anthony Godfrey:
46 years so you're starting to get the hang of it huh?

Marty:
A little bit.

Anthony Godfrey:
A little bit. Okay. So I have, if my wife is listening to this, she's thinking, “Invite Marty over. We have a few things that we'd love to have Marty take a look at.” Is that one of the downsides of having the skills that you do? Does every neighbor know that you're an electrician and you can help out?

Marty:
Ah, yeah I, they try.

Anthony Godfrey:
They try. Do you have a sudden school emergency when they need help fixing something?

Marty:
I'll help them out if it's serious; if not, I always recommend it to somebody else.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well just look up on the website. You can find Marty's number give him a call. He’d be glad to do a job on the side. What are some of the challenges being an electrician in Jordan School District? We've got buildings that are built 50 years ago and buildings that are built just a year or two ago. Are there all kinds of electrical systems that you have to be familiar with?

Marty:
Very much so. Our field's constantly changing all the time. That and our lighting controls are getting more complicated and more software and stuff like that. They're computer-controlled in a lot of the classrooms nowadays. We have some schools that have up to like five lighting systems in the same school.

Anthony Godfrey:
Five in the same school?

Marty:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. We sure appreciate the work that you do and we're grateful you're here in Jordan School District and you're bringing all of these years of experience working on various projects in various states and thank you for all your hard work.

Marty:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, “Education is the most important thing you'll do today!” We'll see you out there.