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Anthony Godfrey:
Hello, and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. Excitement is building for students, teachers, and staff as the brand new Oak Leaf Elementary School in Herriman prepares to open for the 2022-23 school year. On this episode of the Supercast, we take you inside for a sneak peek of the new school. That's where we find principal Ronna Hoffman, hard at work, getting ready to welcome students and preparing her rockstar staff for a first year filled with memories that will last a lifetime.

We're here at Oak Leaf Elementary to talk with Ronna and Thyme about opening a new school. This is our newest school in Jordan School District. And that's one of the exciting things about being in Jordan, is that we have lots of growth, and with growth we have lots of opportunities as well. So Ronna, thanks for taking a moment to talk with us.

Ronna Hoffman:
Oh, excited to be here.

Anthony Godfrey:
And Thyme, you're the new Administrative Intern here full time. It's exciting. You get to be part of building a school from the ground up.

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
Yes. Very exciting. I'm glad to be here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, we're very glad to have you. Let's just take a bit of a look around in a minute, but first, how does it feel to finally be at this moment? You have not been working in a school for a little while because we needed your help with our literacy program, and so you've been helping lots of schools. How does it feel to get to come back and now get to own a school and to connect to a community?

Ronna Hoffman:
Yeah, I have missed being in a school. I'm so excited. It feels like home and this is going to be home.

Anthony Godfrey:
It is, and I always love coming to see things underway, and this school has shot up. We're working with some great partners who are making it happen very quickly. As I walked up, I noticed that the entryway is similar to our other new elementary schools. It looks just like a Jawa sandcrawler for any of those Star Wars fans out there. You know, the big moving fortress that the Jawa are in. Drive by, you'll know what I'm talking about. But the school looks fantastic. It looks great. So let's just kind of take a walk around now. We've added recently this huge display case. What plans do you have for this display case once everything's done?

Ronna Hoffman:
We want to kind of pay tribute to the history of Oak Leaf. It used to be a dairy farm. This is where a dairy farm was. So we kind of want to just give a history of the spot, the location, the name, and kind of have a display of pictures, start to finish of what the construction was like. Just like a tribute to Oak Leaf.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, I seem to recall in one of the Board meetings, when we were talking about names that a Board member had an old calendar that had Oak Leaf Dairy featured. Do you have that calendar?

Ronna Hoffman:
Oh, we do have that. We got that from Marilyn Richards. She's helped us with the history behind it. And we do have that and we will be displaying that.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now you met me over here at the new school, but really you have been working out of the Auxiliary Services Building, where we keep our new principles away from their building. They keep driving over and looking. I'm sure it's a different feel where you're looking at a new building coming up out of the ground. I remember being a new principal driving by Midvale Middle School, looking at it. It seemed vast, right? It seemed like a city, all its own. Very overwhelming. How does it feel to drive up and see the progress that's been made here?

Ronna Hoffman:
Exciting, really exciting. Though, I have to say, since we've been in the building, my steps, my daily steps have like tripled. So it is a little city.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, it is a little city and it's very different from being in an office. So let's walk around, let's take a tour. You were previously in an older building. How does it feel to be in a new building like this?

Ronna Hoffman:
Totally different, totally different feel. We get a stage here. That's exciting. We didn't have a stage before. The walls, the lights, the space, windows in all of the rooms. It's really exciting.

Anthony Godfrey:
Windows in all of the rooms. Yes, that is a key factor. And when you drive up, I know that there's not really much around you right now, but there's so much growth out here. I like to drive in, visit, and then on my way out count how many new homes have gone up since I arrived.

Ronna Hoffman:
Well, we are getting new students regularly.

Anthony Godfrey:
And how many students do you anticipate having?

Ronna Hoffman:
Around 500 to start.

Anthony Godfrey:
And all these little pieces of blue tape and green tape that I'm seeing on the walls as I walk through, that's kind of the punch list, right? Spots that need to be fixed. And the punch list, violent though it may sound, is just what we accumulate for those who built the building over the course of the year. So they make adjustments and fix things over the year just to make sure it's just right.

Ronna Hoffman:
Yeah. They've been really easy to work with. Really great to work with.

Anthony Godfrey:
And it's Hughes Construction, right?

Ronna Hoffman:
It is Hughes Construction.

Anthony Godfrey:
They've really done an amazing job of keeping this on time and moving things forward. And although you're always watching the calendar and making sure that we hit those marks, I really have not been worried about this school because I know that they've been doing a great job out here.

Well, this is about as calm as the media center's going to get. But we do have some power tools going in here as all of our technology is being put in place. Now we have a pencil at the middle of the media center and that's been true for most of our new elementaries over the years. In the past it said number two on the pencil, but everybody wanted to be number one. So is this a number one pencil?

Ronna Hoffman:
It is absolutely a number one pencil.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. All right. What are some of the features that stand out in this school?

Ronna Hoffman:
Boy, there are so many actually. Windows, like I said, there are a lot of windows. Even in the media center where we are. There are so many shelves. The carpet has colors that match the wings of the school, which is really fun. Our cafeteria has a new floor in it that is different than any other cafeteria in our district.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's remarkable as we were talking about how quickly the school went up and it looks great. As we walk through, what is still remaining to be done? What still needs to get finished before students come?

Ronna Hoffman:
Well, as you can see, looking around, it's hard to believe that we're going to open in less than three weeks. There's a lot of cleanup, last minute touches. We have someone here touching up walls. We have the cafeteria and gym floor that still needs to be in place. We've got a lot of supplies to put away. A lot of furniture to put away. Just details, the baseboards, that kind of thing.

Anthony Godfrey:
But it's looking really close. And like you said, as things get closer, you always kinda wonder how quickly all this can happen, but it's quite miraculous how quickly everyone's able to put things together.

Ronna Hoffman:
We come daily and see amazing progress every day that surprises us.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, I'm standing with you here in the cafeteria and the stage area. You said that the floor is going to be different than in any other elementary. What's that gonna look like?

Ronna Hoffman:
It's going to look the same as the wet areas that are in the classrooms. It will be a little bit textured and a little colorful.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, very nice. Kids will like that. Walking out the back of the school, you just see fields. Can you imagine this filled with homes of your students over the years?

Ronna Hoffman:
I think we're going to see that, yes. It doesn't matter what window you look out, or what doors you go out, I think we've got a beautiful view all the way around the school.

Anthony Godfrey:
You really do. It's gorgeous looking back at the Oquirrh mountains, but let's walk just around the corner. And I think you have a pretty stunning view of the Wasatch front. I remember coming out here at the groundbreaking and you have a gorgeous view of the Wasatch front from here.

Ronna Hoffman:
Yeah, we really do.

Anthony Godfrey:
I see lots of dirt where there will be grass. Do you know how that's going to look by the time students get here?

Ronna Hoffman:
Well, we will hopefully have the grass in by the time students come, but we will have to stay off of it for about a month.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, well that will be a unique challenge. Having kids stand at the edge of the green grass and just look at it longingly.

Ronna Hoffman:
We have a lot of other fun things to do on the blacktop.

Anthony Godfrey:
You do. Let's look at the you know, this is, this is not the playground that I was accustomed to. The metal slides that would burn the back of your legs if you slid down them at just the wrong time. This is a very sophisticated playground situation. This looks great. This is like city park level stuff. You could really play the floor is lava very well with this playground set.

Ronna Hoffman:
And I'm sure kids will.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, did you get any say in picking the colors because we've got yellow and turquoise?

Ronna Hoffman:
I did not get a say in it, but we like it.

Anthony Godfrey:
I think you could probably see this playground from space. And it is next to Kennecott Mine, which you can see from space. So you could probably just look over just a little ways and see that playground.

Ronna Hoffman:
You know, Starlink has come by a few times over the last few days. I'm sure they've got a picture of it somewhere.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm sure they have pictures of all of us.

Stay with us. When we come back more on what it takes to open a new school and what the new school colors and mascot might be. We'll talk about that next.

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Are you looking for a job right now? Looking to work in a fun and supportive environment with great pay and a rewarding career? Jordan School District is hiring. We're currently filling full and part-time positions. You can work and make a difference in young lives and education as a classroom assistant or a substitute teacher. Apply to work in one of our school cafeterias where our lunch staff serves up big smiles with great food every day. We're also looking to hire custodians and bus drivers. In Jordan School District we like to say people come for the job and enjoy the adventure. Apply today at workatjordan.org.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me, what are your hopes for the first school year at Oak Leaf?

Ronna Hoffman:
Our goal for the first year is to build community and to just become a family and work together, partner with our parents. Just be a very cohesive community that works together for the good of our kids.

Anthony Godfrey:
I have no doubt that that's how it'll feel here. I just know the type of principal you are and that's how it's gonna go. Now, the name Oak Leaf came through a process that we've used for every other school, where we get community feedback on ideas for what the name ought to be. And then we survey and based on those results, then the Board makes a final decision. Have you chosen colors and a mascot yet?

Ronna Hoffman:
No, we're going to let our students do that. So in September, August-September, we will be choosing a mascot and school colors.

Anthony Godfrey:
And that's normally how we do that, which is great because then that means the students who are coming get to be a part of that process. The other thing that's been nice is that the boundaries have been established for longer for Oak Leaf than usual. We did that. We went through that process along with some other boundary changes that needed to happen. And so people have known for a while that they're coming to Oak Leaf and that's probably making it a little easier to build that community initially.

Ronna Hoffman:
Well, we do plan to have everyone feel like family because we're one big family. They have known for a while, but they still miss their old schools. So we're going to have to work hard to become their favorite.

Anthony Godfrey:
And we know that that's part of the equation when we work so hard to make every school a great place to be, then it's always hard to leave. But I know it's gonna be a great place to be. Now Thyme, you are a new administrator in a new building. How does that feel?

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
Exciting to say to the least. It's just amazing. Like you said, I come by and drive near this school and just exciting to be here on the ground and just, can't wait to see students in the building.

Anthony Godfrey:
I think it's a great place for you to start as an intern. Not only because you get to work with Ronna, but also because everyone's going to be on a bit of a level playing field. Everybody's new, everybody's figuring it out together and I think that'll really bring you together as a group. People will get a chance to rely on you, right outta the shoot. Instead of you getting to know something that's established, you get to be a part of something right from the ground level.

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
Yep. We're all in it together. I love it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, where did you come from before Thyme?

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
I was at Elk Meadows Elementary before this. I was a fourth grade teacher and I've also taught second grade.

Anthony Godfrey:
What's available to parents when school starts?

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
So on August 17th parents and students and their families can come in and teachers will be ready to meet them. They can walk through the school and get to see where they're gonna be sitting for the next school year. So we're excited to have that Back to School night option the day before school starts.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm sure there's a lot of anticipation, people wanting to get inside the new school.

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
Yes, yes. And I don't blame them. It's exciting.

Anthony Godfrey:
It is. I remember going to a new school in fifth grade and it was a brand new school and we were all very excited to be a part of that. How many teachers have you hired so far? And are you all staffed up?

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
We are, as of this week, all staffed up. We have three teachers in every grade except for one, we have two teachers.

Anthony Godfrey:
And which grade do you have two teachers?

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
We have two teachers in fifth grade.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. Actually three in almost every grade is a great start. That's pretty big actually for a brand new school. And all of your support staff are in place?

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
No, we're still looking for some people. So we are in dire need of copy and recess aids. We know that we utilize those a lot. So we're looking for those, as well as some nutrition workers and a couple of Walk to Read assistants. We're looking for those too.

Anthony Godfrey:
All positions where you get to know great people and get to interact with kids. And it's a great time.

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
Yes. Yep.

Anthony Godfrey:
Anyone who wants to come and work with Thyme and Ronna in a brand new school, come on over and check it out.

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
We'd love to have you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, thank you very much for the tour and the time here at Oak Leaf. It's great to get to chat with you both on the cusp of a fresh new year, straight out of the package.

Ronna Hoffman:
Thank you, Anthony. It was fun to have you here.

Thyme Meleisea-Vea:
It was exciting to walk through the school with you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember ,education is the most important thing you'll do today. We'll see you out there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello, and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godrey. It is an event focused on school bus driver safety and sharpening skills. Dozens of school bus drivers competed in Jordan School District's “Bus Safety Challenge.” On this episode of the Supercast, find out how school bus driver's skills were put to the test as they snaked their way through a series of traffic cones, navigated a diminishing clearance, parked curbside and conquered an offset alley. It was a challenge to help drivers be the best they can be in keeping students safe on the school bus. Join me as I board the school bus to experience this challenge firsthand.

All right. We're here at Transportation with Marcus. Thanks for taking some time.

Marcus:
Hey, not a problem.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now tell me the name of this event today.

Marcus:
So we've named this event the “School Bus Safety Challenge”.

Anthony Godfrey:
“School Bus Safety Challenge”. And what's the point of the “School Bus Safety Challenge”?

Marcus:
So the point of the “School Bus Safety Challenge” is to really hone in on our driver's skills. It puts them in situations that are found out in the real world, but even tighter, even harder. So they can really hone in on their skills and see where they might be lacking. See where they're doing a great job. And it's an overall fun challenge for them.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now you're a trainer here with the Transportation department. And do you think you could train me to be a good bus driver?

Marcus:
I am sure of it.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's because of your skills, not mine. I am really in awe of bus drivers because of the number of things that they have to keep track of all at the same time. The least of which are rear view mirrors or side mirrors and mailboxes and that, but more than anything, they're keeping the people on the road safe and the kids safe most of all. So it's a tough thing. I've driven a bus around this parking lot which made it clear to everyone that I should not drive beyond this parking lot. Tell me, just from a trainer's perspective, what's the hardest part of being a bus driver do you think?

Marcus:
The hardest part, and I tell this to all of the people coming on board is student management. They're always intimidated about driving the vehicle and within the first two weeks they got it, they're doing it. They're perfect at it. Student management's one of those skills that's hard for us to actually simulate behind the wheel training. Because it's something that we can give them the tools, but they really need to get the experience out on the road. So for our drivers, I would say that's the hardest skill to learn at first. But once they master it, you really learn to love the kids and love your route.

Anthony Godfrey:
Great. I love that. I also, I have to say, I love coming to Transportation because I always get this huge parking spot. It's meant for a bus, but man, it's very roomy, very spacious. So tell me about the event today. What are some of the challenges that you've set up along the course?

Marcus:
So we have a bunch of challenges. We have anything from a right hand turn challenge, which really hones in on the driver's right hand turn skills, because as you can imagine, turning a 40 foot bus can be difficult. It's not like turning a car in a neighborhood, you’ve got 40 feet of vehicle to turn. We have what's called an offset alley challenge that really hones in on their experience with stuff like construction zones, things of that nature. We have a diminishing clearance, which basically puts them in a 10 foot wide space and a bus is eight foot wide. And that slowly narrows down to when they're at the very end of the diminishing clearance, they literally have inches on each side of the bus to make it through.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh wow. So it's just, how far can you make it without touching the sides?

Marcus:
Exactly.

Anthony Godfrey:
Does anyone make it all the way through?

Marcus:
You know, we've had some drivers that are really experienced that have made it all the way through. Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. That's impressive. So at the end of this, does a driver say to themselves,’This is a skill that I really need to work on’?

Marcus:
Yeah. I would think any driver that would do any sort of self-reflection would look at their scores at the end and see where they did good, where they did bad. And I don't even wanna say bad, because the course itself is quite challenging. I did one, six years ago when the state Department of Education used to put 'em on, and I remember just being so nervous going through it, but it really teaches you what you could be lacking in. But in that area of like expertise to where it's like fine, fine skills that you're practicing here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Right. Yeah. The other thing that it would do for drivers, I would think, is build your confidence, not just tell you the things that you could focus on, but to say, ‘Hey, I did really well at that. And actually I've really developed my skills and I've come a long way.’

Marcus:
Yeah, most definitely. Especially when we do the tour of the actual course itself, you see kind of that fear in a lot of the driver's eyes like, ‘Oh, can I actually do this?’ And then they actually go through the course and they're like, ‘I'm doing this, I'm actually making it through this. I didn't hit any of the obstacles.’ Or if you hit one, they just barely nudged it. Something like that, not they go into it thinking, ‘Oh no, I might totally fail this thing.’ And then by the end they're like, ‘Wow, I did a good job.’ And it really boosts that confidence.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Plus the competitive aspect of it makes it fun.

Marcus:
Oh yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Are there prizes involved?

Marcus:
Yep. There's prizes involved. We have some trophy plaques that they'll put in their bus bulkhead, which is really nice because then their passengers on their bus can see, ‘oh my bus driver won the competition. I'm in a safe bus’.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh right. Yeah. That's cool. I love that. Yeah. What are some of the prizes that they're giving?

Marcus:
So we got a bunch of stuff actually donated to us through some of the high schools and some of the secondary schools that sent in donations. We have a bunch of donations that actually came in through some of our bus sales people like Rush, Thomas and Bluebird. They donated prizes. And then like I said, those trophies.

Anthony Godfrey:
Can we go take a look at the diminishing clearance?

Marcus:
We most definitely can.

Anthony Godfrey:
All right. Let's check it out. 

Okay. This looks intimidating. So what's the method on this? Do you try to stay really close to one side as you go down? Or do you stay centered and allow each side to get closer and closer?

Marcus:
Multiple people have multiple strategies to it. Me, myself, I like to stay closer to the left side because that's the area you have most visibility on a school bus is that left side on the vehicle.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yep. We're about to watch Roslyn go through the diminishing clearance and she's in the 40 foot bus, which is regulation for these competitions. And while we watch her go through this, she's not supposed to stop and she's trying to avoid hitting the sides that get narrower and narrower. And it looks like she's trying to stay close to the left side. Is that what you think there that she's trying to do?

Marcus:
I would say so. Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hasn't hit anything so far, it doesn't look like, see, see where the real hub the judges are watching. Oh yeah. There's a wheel hub there. That sticks out a little bit. I see that now. Yes. I see that now, but she hasn't hit so far. Did she stop? She might have stopped once.

Marcus:
Oh, there we go.

Anthony Godfrey:
There we go. Hit one on the right hand side bus on the way out, but that's still quite remarkable.

Marcus:
That's still quite remarkable. Especially Roslyn’s only been driving a bus about six months. 

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, wow. 

Marcus:
Yeah. So she's brand new to this.

Anthony Godfrey:
Brand new and just missed the one. That's really impressive. That's really cool. Well, I think this is a really exciting way to highlight bus driver skills. Give them some idea of where to focus next, but we've got a lot of really incredible drivers.

Marcus:
Oh, we do most definitely. The thing I really like about my job is I get to spend the first four weeks with these people, teaching them how to drive and you learn the back stories and where they're coming from and why they want to do this job. And it's just awesome to see people go from a skill level of nothing more than driving something like a minivan to up to driving a 40 foot bus and doing it with a lot of confidence.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. It's impressive. Well, I appreciate what you do, Marcus. Hey, thank you. And thanks for your enthusiasm for helping drivers be at their best.

Marcus:
Hey, definitely.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us more of our amazing school bus drivers, making their way through a challenging safety course to sharpen their driving skills.

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Are you looking for a job right now? Looking to work in a fun and supportive environment with great pay and a rewarding career? Jordan School District is hiring. We're currently filling full and part-time positions. You can work and make a difference in young lives and education as a classroom assistant or a substitute teacher. Apply to work in one of our school cafeterias where our lunch staff serves up big smiles with great food every day. We're also looking to hire custodians and bus drivers. In Jordan School District we like to say people come for the job and enjoy the adventure. Apply today at workatjordan.org.

Anthony Godfrey:
Roslyn's about to do what's called the offset obstacle where you're trying to go through a very narrow area and then adjust, kind of turn a little bit and swerve to the left slowly and then go through the next narrow passage. So you've gotta be able to turn and then straighten the bus out really quickly. And wow, it's tough. It's really challenging the drivers that are here. And I can't imagine it. I can't imagine doing it. It's very narrow on both sides. So how did she do?

Marcus:
She hit three and then stopped twice. Okay. So that's seven for each one she hits and then 16 for the stopping, eight for stopping.

Anthony Godfrey:
So describe the obstacle here. What do you have set out? So

Marcus:
It's offset. So basically you're coming through, then you offset into this side without hitting. So you've gotta be able to turn, make the turn without hitting the pylons here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, so you have two kind of almost white fence looking structures with red on the tip. And the idea is to squeeze through a narrow passage and then you have to go, what was the term that you used?

Marcus:
Offset.

Anthony Godfrey:
Offset? So then you offset to another passage and straighten out.

Marcus:
I would dub this, the Daybreak run, because cars are so close together in Daybreak and you gotta turn.

Anthony Godfrey:
You gotta kind thread the needle.

Marcus:
Yeah. 

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Okay. We're here with Roslyn who's been driving, I understand for six months, right? 

Roslyn:
Yep. Just about.

Anthony Godfrey:

And before that you had a public service job as well. Tell me about that.

Roslyn:
I did. Some years before I was a police officer with Salt Lake City Police.

Anthony Godfrey:
And tell me about being a police officer versus driving a bus load full of kids.

Roslyn:
Surprisingly the challenges are very varied. I had no idea how much concentration and divided attention was required for being a bus driver. And while they’re are very different jobs, that is a similarity, absolutely between law enforcement and driving a school bus.

Anthony Godfrey:
You have to keep many things in your mind all at the same time.

Roslyn:
Yep.

Anthony Godfrey:
There's a level of awareness required at all times.

Roslyn:
Yes. What's going on outside the bus and inside the bus, watching for traffic, being a defensive driver, just, you know, like everyone should all the time, but kind of the stakes are higher because if you miss something, you're really big and can smash whatever you might hit.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Right. Tell me about today's competition. What did you think?

Roslyn:
I liked it. I have not done it before.

Anthony Godfrey:
I think you had one of the best runs on a couple of them.

Roslyn:
Well good. I'm glad that's where you were watching.

Anthony Godfrey:
Some swag and prizes are coming your way I suspect. Now, tell me what do you like most about being a bus driver?

Roslyn:
Well, I like the challenge of driving a big vehicle. That was kind of like for years, I kind of thought I would like to drive something big, a semi, bus. The whole semi thing is, that ship is sailed, but this is a much more enjoyable, local. And I frankly did it now because moms in my neighborhood were complaining that sometimes the bus didn't show up because of the bus driver shortage. So I just thought, well, if I'm ever gonna do it, it should be now. 

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Great. And anyone else listening that wants to be part of driving a 40 foot vehicle we're ready for you? Competition, prizes and excitement await you. So come on over. It's a great place and they're great, great people we have in Jordan District driving buses.

Roslyn:
It's all good.

Anthony Godfrey:
What was the hardest challenge that you went through just now?

Roslyn:
Marcus will probably laugh, but it was probably the first one because since I didn't know what it was, I had started in a bad position and it's just like getting your outside tires on a pad on the ground and Itotally failed it. Yeah, I did.

Anthony Godfrey:
The right hand challenge where you're trying to get the right side of the bus up against the curb?

Roslyn:
Yeah, yeah. 

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. All right. Well that right side can be pesky. What was the easiest?

Roslyn:
Probably the serpentine.

Anthony Godfrey:
The serpentine. Really? It does not sound like it would be the easiest. It sounds like a terrible roller coaster ride I'd never want to get on.

Roslyn:
It's just, you know, knowing where your wheel placement is. Which ironically is the same as that, you know, right side curb challenge. 

Anthony Godfrey:
But you were in the groove by then

Roslyn:
it was better. Yes. Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. And describe that challenge for me. What exactly was required?

Roslyn:
Well, there's a line of cones and you have to serpentine through them. And there's actually plenty of room, but when you are considering how long the bus is, it has to be fairly precise as to when you start your turn and make sure your rear wheels go around, you know, each cone. And so you drive left and right. Much farther than you think you might have to in order to get the whole bus to clear.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, the bus isn't hinged in the middle, so it does not it doesn't bend. And how many points did you score in the wheelie challenge?

Roslyn:
I aced that. Like 50 points were available and I got it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, was it a front wheelie or was it the side with the Dukes of Hazzard style? 

Roslyn:
Dukes of Hazzard.

Anthony Godfrey:
Dukes of Hazzard style. Yeah. Good solid choice. Yeah. Okay. Well, we're really glad to have you driving with us and thanks for taking the time to chat. 

Roslyn:
Sure.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks to our team of school bus drivers who participated in the safety challenge. If you would like to join the Jordan School District team as a school bus driver making a difference in the lives of children every day, we are hiring. We invite you to apply now at employment@jordandistrict.org. 

Thanks to everyone for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you'll do today. We'll see you out there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello, and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. During the pandemic, the USDA offered free breakfast and lunch to all students K-12 nationwide. Those pandemic rules are now changing. On this episode of the Supercast, find out what you need to know about school breakfast and lunch moving forward, and how to apply for free or reduced meals for the upcoming 2022-23 school year in Jordan School District. We're here with Katie Bastian, the new director of Nutrition Services. Thanks for taking time.

Katie Bastian:
Yes, thank you. Thanks for having me.

Anthony Godfrey:
I can still say new, right? Even though you've done it since last year.

Katie Bastian:
Yeah. I hope so. Yeah, I feel new. Everything's a new day.

Anthony Godfrey:
I just finished my third year. So I think I have to stop saying that I'm new, but it feels good when you're able to do that. 

Katie Bastian:
Yes. A little bit of leeway.

Anthony Godfrey:
The last couple of years, the USDA has provided free meals because of COVID and that has happened nationwide. So this change is not a Jordan District change. This is a change that's happening nationwide where now there is no longer an exemption and students will need to pay for their meals. The good news is that Jordan District has not increased the cost of a meal for 13 years, if I'm not mistaken.

Katie Bastian:
Yeah, our meals this year, as you know, we go back to a free, reduced and paid price structure. The cost is just the same as it was pre-pandemic. So, the prices aren't increasing.

Anthony Godfrey:
And it's been over a decade that we've kept those prices low.

Katie Bastian:
It's pretty incredible. Yeah. But through budgeting and making use of, like you say, we make foods from scratch. So we have more labor than most districts do, but we're able to save money and control our quality by doing things from scratch.

Anthony Godfrey:
So the overall cost is lower, that's what's made it possible for us to avoid increasing cost for over a decade, but it's also helped with supply chain issues that we've been able to cook from scratch. Tell me a little bit about that.

Katie Bastian:
We have a warehouse in our district, which we're really lucky to have, so we have a little bit of control over what we bring in and we're able to purchase in bulk. But yeah, when people are having issues getting bread products, bread products haven't and are not an issue for us because we make a lot of our bread products from scratch. We just have to make sure we have all the, you know, raw ingredients of flour, whole wheat flour and that sort of thing. So we are able to control the quality and the cost of it and put out a healthy and delicious product.

Anthony Godfrey:
So when I think about aspects of the district that are run very efficiently with a high quality output it's Nutrition Services that I think of. We do a lot of things well, and that is one of them. It's just incredible what you have done over the years to provide very nutritious, high quality meals at a very low cost and providing jobs. And doing so for less than it would cost to just bring that food in instead of create it here.

Katie Bastian:
Yeah, no, I appreciate that. And our staff is incredible. We have over 500 employees at you know, our 64 different sites and they're incredible. They were flexible during COVID. And even now COVIDs getting a little bit better, all the supply chain issues and they've just been flexible. They rise to the challenge every single day.

Anthony Godfrey:
And it's been a challenge because throughout every summer we've continued to feed students. And so if anyone hasn't received a break it's Nutrition Services. Even when we shut down schools in the spring of 2020, everyone else was home for the most part, except for our education support professionals and that included Nutrition Services who continued to provide meals in very uncertain circumstances. Thank you for providing that consistency and just a really important part of a student's day.

Katie Bastian:
Definitely. Yeah. They're amazing. Our staff is amazing.

Anthony Godfrey:
An amazing thing that's happened since the USDA has been reimbursing us for all meals is that fewer families have applied for those free or reduced lunch benefits that they would normally be eligible for. So how does a family go about renewing those benefits?

Katie Bastian:
So with the USDA suspending those waivers and us going back to everything normal next year, we've really just been letting parents know to apply for the free and reduced lunches through their registration process. They can do it online through their Skyward account, or they can, every school has a paper application too. So even if you're not sure if you qualify, please just apply for free and reduced meals and see. And then also we want parents to know, go ahead and put money in your student's lunch account, which you can also do through Skyward. And that will get them all set up for the first day of school.

Anthony Godfrey:
I've heard this a couple of different times, but third graders, second graders, and first graders have not entered their lunch number before. They haven't had to go through that process because either they were in kindergarten before the pandemic and didn't have lunch to begin with at school. Or they just have had a free lunch during the pandemic. So we have a lot of students, sometimes half of our students at our elementary schools, who will be figuring out that program for the first time. So those first couple of weeks are going to be a little bit intense.

Katie Bastian:
Definitely. Yeah. Parents will figure things out and we'll figure 'em out with the kids. So yeah,

Anthony Godfrey:
It'll be great. It'll be great. Just part of adjusting to being back in business in the way we used to be.

Stay with us. When we come back, find out what is happening in the free summer meal service program for Jordan School District.

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Anthony Godfrey:
We have a summer meal program that a lot of people don't realize goes on throughout the summer. Many people ask, what do we do all summer? Well, this is one of the ways that we stay connected to kids and communities. Tell us about that and where that's located and who it's available to.

Katie Bastian:
Yeah, so we have five summer feeding locations and they're mostly in West Jordan because that is the area that qualifies for eligibility based on their free and reduced percentages. But we have five schools. We have Columbia and Heartland and Westvale and Oquirrh and Majestic.

Anthony Godfrey:
And we are here at Heartland right now in a lull between breakfast and lunch. But this will be filled with kids before too long, having a free lunch that's provided through federal funding. And that's one thing I want to clarify, the rules come from the federal government and the funding comes from the federal government. 

Katie Bastian:
Yep, the USDA.

Anthony Godfrey:
And this is a little bit of a switch over the last couple of summers. Because of COVID, we've had the flexibility to offer summer meals throughout the district at schools in locations farther south and farther west. 

Katie Bastian:
But we had waivers in place that allowed us to do that and now most of those COVID waivers have gone away. So we're just back to kind of the five or six sites that qualify each year that we we've done in the past before the pandemic.

Anthony Godfrey:
And these summer meals have been going on for a long time. Do you have any idea how long this has happened?

Katie Bastian:
Oh, you know, I've been with the district as our dietician, before I was the director, for 12 years. And I mean, it's been going on as long, long before that. As long as I know, like, as far as like, if you have summer lunch, you have summer meals. If you have schools that qualify. So yeah, it runs hand in hand and it's always been free too for kids zero to 18.

Anthony Godfrey:
And the zero to 18 is something that people sometimes overlook. So even if you've graduated, but you're 18, you still qualify. And if you are zero to five and you haven't even been to school yet, you still qualify. And you told me earlier, you even have baby food available. Tell me a little bit about that.

Katie Bastian:
We do. Yeah. We do have baby food available for, of course, the kids who aren't eating regular table food. And then our meals are served hot off the line every day. So it's not a cold grab and go sandwich every day. So it's a pretty good quality meal. And people need to know that they don't have to be within the school's boundaries to come. If someone from, you know, other places in our district want to come, it's open to everyone. 

Anthony Godfrey:
It's just open to anyone age zero to 18. You don't have to qualify with your family's income or any of your family circumstances, and you don't have to qualify according to where you live. Just anyone age, zero to 18 qualifies. But if a parent comes with them, they do not qualify to have a meal.

Katie Bastian:
Right. The parent can buy a meal if they'd like to eat with their kids, they're more than welcome to do that. And we love parents to come with their kids too.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what's the charge for a parent to come?

Katie Bastian:
I believe it is $3.30, an adult meal cost.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, that's a bargain.

Katie Bastian:
It is.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's a bargain. Bring the whole family. So anyone is welcome at any of those five schools. And tell me about the hours. When is that available?

Katie Bastian:
We serve a hot breakfast from 8:30 to 9:30, and then we serve a hot lunch from 11:30 to 12:30 every day. And that's throughout the summer.

Anthony Godfrey:
And that's the same time at every location. 

Katie Bastian:
Yep. Same time every location.

Anthony Godfrey:
And we have Tawnya Elwood here with us who is normally the Nutrition Services Manager at Daybreak, but is filling in and helping out here at Heartland. Thanks for taking a few minutes to talk with me.

Tawnya Elwood:
You're welcome.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about the summer meal program.

Tawnya Elwood:
So anyone can come and then we'd love to see any kids come and help from zero to 18. They mentioned the baby food. We have lots of hot meals. It changes every day. So we have like a five week cycle that we cycle through breakfast and lunch.

Anthony Godfrey:
I assume that you have some of the same children that come through over that period of time and you get to know them pretty well.

Tawnya Elwood:
Yeah. It's really fun. A lot of the same kids come. And so we get to know their names and get to see how their summer's going and visit with them one on one.

Anthony Godfrey:
Like I was talking about earlier, although we do have many people who do not work in the summer, we have a lot of things that continue throughout the summer. You really don't get a rest and I really appreciate that you're here to help out.

Tawnya Elwood:
That's okay. I'd love to help. I, you know, it's great that we can work and keep and still have a job and help these kids and help make sure that they get a meal.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, it's really important to the community and I know it means a lot to them, so thank you very much for making that possible.

Tawnya Elwood:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
How long have you been a nutrition services worker in the district?

Tawnya Elwood:
Since 2013.

Anthony Godfrey:
And where all have you worked?

Tawnya Elwood:
I've worked at Joel P Jensen Middle School for eight years. And then I've been at Daybreak. Well, I went to Joel P Jensen for eight years, and then I came here at Heartland during COVID and then I got manager at Daybreak two years ago.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh. So when you come back to Heartland, you know these kids.

Tawnya Elwood:
Oh yeah, yeah. I've been summer feed here for three years.

Anthony Godfrey:
Being able to connect with kids as part of their meal, whether it's in the summer or during the school day, they really get to know you and become friends I'm sure.

Tawnya Elwood:
Yeah. It's a lot of fun getting to hear about their summers.

Anthony Godfrey:
So as a Nutrition Services Manager in the summer, you maybe get to know students in a different way because there are fewer, first of all. Even though there are a lot of participants, it's not like during the school year.

Tawnya Elwood:
Definitely. 100 versus 500 kids. Because during the summer we have about, I don't know what they feed here at Heartland, but I know at Daybreak we serve about 500.

Anthony Godfrey:
So that gives you a chance to get to know them better because the numbers are lower. But you also get to connect with their families and maybe get to know parents of students that you've known for a long time because they come with their kids for the summer program.

Tawnya Elwood:
Yeah. A lot of the same parents come with the same kids. And so we talk to them and get to know them and their family and what's going on with them as a whole.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's a great service and a wonderful way to stay connected.

Tawnya Elwood:
Definitely.

Anthony Godfrey:
Katie mentioned that we do not just serve a grab and go, it's a hot lunch and a hot breakfast off the line. Tell me about some of the foods that are available. They're fresh foods as well.

Tawnya Elwood:
Yes, we serve 'em right here in the cafeteria. So they come in here and they eat in the cafeteria and there is, like today we had waffles and sausage. Sometimes we have sweet and sour chicken, or we have spaghetti. We've made tacos from scratch today. We make rolls from scratch. So they get a wide variety. There's lots of fruits and vegetables. We make salads. We've had pineapple, cantaloupe, which is a lot of the fresh fruit.

Anthony Godfrey:
And it is impressive that we do so many meals from scratch. I know that that is one of the things that sets us apart, I think a little bit, from some other programs. And so it's great food and it's definitely something that people ought to check out if that's of interest to them at any of those schools during the times we mentioned. We'll include the list of schools and times in the show notes as well. Well, I know that there's a lot to be done in summer, but it is almost lunch time. So I will let you go, but I really appreciate your spending the time. And it's a pleasure to talk with you. Thanks for everything you do for our students and for our community. Thank you so much. 

Tawnya Elwood:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you'll do today. We'll see out there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello, and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. Students are earning their wings and reaching new heights in a unique high school program that focuses on hands-on learning and future careers. On this episode of the Supercast, we take you inside the Aviation Sciences program at JATC North in West Jordan, where students are able to get inside the cockpit of a flight simulator. That's where they are able to explore what it's really like to be a pilot and maintain control of an aircraft when rough weather or other challenges come their way.

We're here with Aaron Organ, the aviation teacher at JATC North. Thanks for taking time with us.

Aaron Organ:
Absolutely. It's an honor. Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Will you describe this program to us first of all?

Aaron Organ:
Absolutely. Yeah. This is a program that offers four different classes, each covering different things related to aviation. They can come in and explore the world of aviation and earn industry certifications to prepare them as well as earning college credit. All four classes are concurrent enrollment classes.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what got you interested in this? What's your background with aviation?

Aaron Organ:
So I was introduced into aviation when I was about 13 years old and was able to start working in aviation at a very young age. I earned my pilot's license when I was in high school. So I've always loved everything about aviation. Long story short, it wasn't a good time to go be an airline pilot when I was going to school. So I did a degree in aviation management from Utah Valley University. I went and worked a job in DC servicing airports, different services to different airports, made my way back to Utah and eventually kind of fell into teaching here at JATC.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, we're very glad that you fell our way. That's exciting to have you here. And I'm just excited that this is something that we offer as a district. Tell me about the students who are drawn to this class.

Aaron Organ:
Yeah, we get a variety of students, you know, some have known since they were very young that they wanted to be in aviation. Some of them have, you know, parents or aunts or uncles, or it's kind of in the family. And then we have others that are completely new to it that have never really thought about it, but want to come explore what it would be like to work as a pilot or in the aviation industry. So we get kind of a wide range of students that come into this program.

Anthony Godfrey:
And tell me about the four different classes that you offer.

Aaron Organ:
Yeah, so most of my students come in wanting to be pilots. So we offer a Private Pilot Ground School course which prepares them to go take the FAA written exam to become a private pilot. And we also, like I mentioned earlier, added a Drone class this year. So that's to prepare them for the FAA, Federal Aviation Administration, written exam to earn their commercial drone license. We also have an Aviation History class. So we talk about the Wright brothers all the way to present day. You know to present day space travel and things of that nature. In that class we also do a lot of career exploration type of things. And then the other class that we also just added this year is Air Transportation Management. So that's a look at the aviation industry from the management perspective, so not from the pilot perspective. It's fairly airline heavy, so we look at the operations of airlines, the business side of it.

Anthony Godfrey:
I understand that as a part of teaching these classes, you've developed a lot of partnerships and connections to the industry to give kids a real taste of what opportunities there are out there and what the issues are, and to really learn from those who are in the field. Tell me about some of the connections that you have.

Aaron Organ:
Yeah, absolutely. That was one of my biggest goals coming here to JATC is truly engaged learning. Where we can connect the students to the industry and they can see it and feel it and hear from the people actually living what they dream to do someday. So yeah, networking is everything I think in life, but especially in the aviation industry. It's a big industry, but everyone really does seem to know everyone. And so just networking, I have a lot of different connections to airline pilots, the airport management at the Salt Lake Airport, down at Provo, the three different collegiate programs here in Utah, their aviation programs. So just, yeah, different people that I've met along the way have been really gracious to host us for field trips or come be guest speakers.

Anthony Godfrey:
What are some of the field trips you've taken?

Aaron Organ:
So, we went to Utah State in Logan and down to Utah Valley University to check out their college programs. Southern Utah University brought a helicopter to us. They came and landed a helicopter here at JATC. So we covered those. We went to the Salt Lake International Airport to get an airside operations tour, which was really cool. On the drone side, we went to Fordham Technologies in Pleasant Grove. They're a cutting edge drone startup here in Utah that started about five years ago. They have a lot of defense contracts and do a lot of cool things. So those are a few of the many field trips.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's an awesome chance for kids to really get to know the industry. Well, let's head out and let's fly a little.

Stay with us. When we come back, students take to the skies, showing us their skills in flying a drone.

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Anthony Godfrey:
We're here with Brayden and Caden, both students in the aviation classes here at JATC North. Introduce yourselves and tell me a little bit about what interested you in the class.

Caden:
So I'm Caden. I've always loved aviation. I've always wanted to be a pilot. So I saw an open house for this my sophomore year and I thought it looked pretty cool. So I decided I'd tried out my senior year and man, it was an amazing class, best class I've ever taken. Aaron's an amazing teacher. And man, I just had a ton of fun taking this class. I learned a ton of stuff. I know so much more about aviation than I previously did obviously.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me something that stood out for you in the class that really surprised you, or was a favorite part of the class?

Caden:
Probably just getting out and going and doing stuff. We fly drones a ton. We did tons of field trips. How many field trips do you think we went on?

Brayden:
Like 10.

Caden:
10. We went on 10 field trips and I was not expecting that. It was tons of fun. Aaron sets up a lot of stuff for us to go do. So we're not just sitting in class just on our phones and stuff, but yeah. Tons of fun.

Anthony Godfrey:
It was a deeper experience than you expected.

Caden:
Oh yeah, for sure.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. And are you even more committed to aviation now?

Caden:
Yeah, 100%. I'm actually going on an LDS mission, then I'm gonna come back and go to flight school at Utah State. And I just feel so much more prepared and ready to do that now.

Anthony Godfrey:
So what is that path forward for you? You go to Utah State. Is it a four year degree? Where do things go from there?

Caden:
Yeah, so I'll get my bachelor's at Utah State and then I will hopefully end up as like a flight instructor. And then my plan was to fly a little bit of cargo after that to gain some hours then probably hop on with SkyWest or some other regional airline and then move on to hopefully Southwest Airline. So that's my goal.

Anthony Godfrey:
That sounds like a very realistic plan. I have a friend who's a pilot and that's really kind of the course that he followed. So you've really thought that through. That's impressive. Tell me about your experience.

Brayden:
My name is Brayden. I never really considered flying until this year. I always thought planes were cool and I actually wanted to do engineering first. So I took an engineering class here but I really found out that it really wasn't my thing, but I still had an interest in planes. So I took this class and found that, you know, flying is something that I could see myself doing as a career. And I just have really enjoyed this class. I've learned a ton. It's just crazy. The friendships made here and Aaron is a great teacher, very knowledgeable and everything.

Anthony Godfrey:
Have you watched Top Gun?

Brayden:
Oh yeah. I saw it last Friday. It's really good.

Anthony Godfrey:
It’s good.

Caden:
We're actually going as a class tonight.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, are you? That's awesome.

Caden:
All set up and ready to go.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. It's a great show. As long as it's happening on the screen I can picture myself as a pilot, I'm really excited about it. But if it really came down to it, I know my limits. So, I'm impressed that you guys are in this program. Well, let's head out. Let's fly drones.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're outside now with the drone in the drone zone, ready to take flight. So we've gotta connect through the app and we'll get going. Wow.

Aaron Organ:
So you got two sticks here. This, if you go straight up, we'll go up in altitude. You can gain a little bit of altitude before I show you the other stuff.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. That really, that really responds and it just sticks in the air.

Aaron Organ:
So your left stick up and down, up, down, left to right. We'll just turn it in while it's hovering there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. So it's rotating with the joystick, correct? So far so good. It's looking around, casing it out.

Aaron Organ:
What you see on the screen is the video feed.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's great. Wow. That's a really high quality video there.

Aaron Organ:
Yeah. Good 4K filming. Your right stick is basically turning it in flight.

Anthony Godfrey:
To take this class, you can come out with a license and an ability to earn some money.

Aaron Organ:
Yeah, absolutely. It is illegal to earn money unless you have your FAA, so Federal Aviation Administration, part 107 license. That's what enables you to make money legally with a drone. So by earning that commercial drone pilot's license that'll enable you to go get a job flying drones, getting different photography or filming or surveying and using the data of different things.

Anthony Godfrey:
You can see that this would get very addictive very fast. And even though it may not be a career for some, getting that drone license means that you can earn some money while you're going to school or whatever else.

Caden:
Totally. It doesn't have to be an end career. It could be something that you could do for a little bit until you find something that you like.

Anthony Godfrey:
What stood out for you in these classes that you discovered maybe about yourself.

Brayden:
Just how like really anyone can do it if they put their mind to it. And just how Aaron just takes the time to really help you through it. And just like how personal the class is.

Anthony Godfrey:
You've both pointed out the importance of a great teacher to help you latch onto a subject. Tell me more about Aaron.

Brayden:
I mean, he makes everything really personal in the classroom. He doesn't, you know, require us to call him Mr. Organ. He just, you know, we go by Aaron, you know? Yeah. So it makes, you know, us feel connected to him.

Caden:
Yeah, he's just really, he's more of a friend.

Brayden:
Yeah, a friend than a teacher.

Anthony Godfrey:
A friend who's helping you along a career path and discover abilities in yourself.

Caden:
But he just, he makes the class a lot more. He just goes above and beyond. Like he makes connections for us just so we can go on field trips. He'll make connections just so we can have a guest speaker come in and he'll just go above and beyond trying to get us the knowledge we need to succeed.

Anthony Godfrey:
So your connection with aviation beyond the classroom happens a lot.

Caden:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
So as a flight instructor, you might say he puts the air in Aaron.

Caden:
<Laugh> yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Let's take a look at the simulator. Show me how those work. There's a screen in front of you and then a screen on each side and lots of buttons.

Caden:
Yeah. So we're at the Salt Lake Airport.

Anthony Godfrey:
Can you simulate various airports on this flight simulator?

Caden:
You can go anywhere in the world.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. Yeah. Okay.

Caden:
But we like to fly out of Salt Lake City just because it's our airport here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, sure. You've got the controls here. What does each pedal do?

Caden:
So these are the rudders.

Anthony Godfrey:
One is the clutch, right?

Caden:
No, not exactly.

Anthony Godfrey:
I've got a little bit to learn here. So these are the rudders. Okay.

Caden:
These are the rudders, and this is the yoke, and here's your throttle and your mixture. And these are the flaps for landing. This is your trim wheel.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what does the trim wheel do?

Caden:
So what your trim wheel does is when you're in flight, you're not always having to pull back on your yoke. You can trim it out so that you can not strain yourself so much, trying to always fight up and down on the yoke. So we start it up.

Anthony Godfrey:
Just started it up.

Caden:
Then we get ready. And the simulator is a lot more sensitive than a real airplane. I've done both.

Anthony Godfrey:
So tell me, you have flown in a real airplane?

Caden:
Yeah, I did that for, sorry. I'm just trying to focus on taking off.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. I'll let you take off.

Caden:
It's a little program that Utah State does. It's like a camp for, I think it's a little less than a week. You just, you get to fly a helicopter. You get to fly in an airplane and you get to manipulate the controls. It's really cool. That's also what made me really love aviation more too.

Anthony Godfrey:
Sorry. This is why they have a door on the cockpit. So people don’t ask you questions while you're trying to take off.

Caden:
Oh no, it's fine. We're in flight now, so it'll be a lot easier to just gain altitude. So we actually got to go on a field trip to Utah State this year. That was probably one of my more favorite ones. They go around, talk about their program and they show you all the airplanes and it's especially cool for me because I get to fly in all those airplanes there in two years.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Huh. That's a good head start there to be able to be up there. Well, you made that look really easy. That was very smooth. Tell me, have you had to crash? Have you crashed?

Caden:
We have simulated a crash.

Anthony Godfrey:
On purpose. You simulated one.

Caden:
Yeah. Just when we were practicing our stalls throughout the year, it's just, it's a little bit more hard to do I'd say in the simulator. I've never done a stall in a real airplane.

Anthony Godfrey:
So what you do is you practice if it stalls what you would do.

Caden:
Yeah, exactly. But it's pretty hard to do it on a simulator. I don't think it's nearly the same.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's okay, don't stall. This feels good.

Caden:
And this is what the trim wheel does. So I have it pretty trimmed out right now, but let's say it wasn't trimmed perfectly. So it would go like that. So now I can do nose up.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you just make an adjustment to make sure that it's,

Caden:
Yeah. So then you can adjust it. So I gotta bring the nose down a little more, little up and then it'll be. You can never get it perfect as a pilot, but you can get pretty close.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Brayden do you wanna land the plane here?

Brayden:
Yeah. I actually have a set up right here.

Anthony Godfrey:
All right. Where are we landing? What tropical area are we? Oh, Salt Lake City.

Brayden:
This is just Provo.

Anthony Godfrey:
Provo. All right. Let's land in Provo. Why not?

Brayden:
So these lights down here will show you if you're on the glide path or not. If there is more red, that means you're lower. And if there's more white, that means you're high. But if you have two red and two white, that means you're on the glide. So we'll be there shortly.

Anthony Godfrey:
It gets your attention. The simulator really does pull you in. You have actual airline pilots come in and work with the kids?

Aaron Organ:
Correct, yeah. Two current airline pilots, they're both at SkyWest Airlines. They're both moving on to major airlines right now, but they come in on their days off and basically run the sims. One of them actually is an alumni of the JATC program about seven years ago. So it's really cool to see, you know, high school to a regional airline, to now he's headed to Delta. So it's great having him come in so the students can see what the path looks like from here.

Anthony Godfrey:
There's high demand for the program isn't there?

Aaron Organ:
There is, absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
Pilots are difficult to come by these days.

Aaron Organ:
Yeah. It's a fantastic  time to get into the industry. The demand for pilots is higher than ever before.

Anthony Godfrey:
You guys are awesome. Congratulations on going through the program and look forward to hearing about your future.

Brayden and Caden:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you'll do today. We'll see out there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello, and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. He is on a fast track to achieving his dream of one day competing in the Winter Olympics. On this episode of the Supercast, we head to the Olympics Speed Skating Oval in Kearns, where Ray Shim, who just completed ninth grade at Mountain Creek Middle School hits the ice for another grueling practice. Ray has already set a national record in short track speed skating, and soon he will be competing in higher level races like the America's Cup and World Cup trials, as he strives to make his Olympic dreams come true.

We're here at Mountain Creek Middle School with Ray Shim. Ray, thanks for taking time.

Ray Shim:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Ray is a speed skater preparing for his next race, but for even bigger things beyond that. Tell me about that preparation and how long you've been skating.

Ray Shim:
Well, I started skating when I was four in South Korea and my mom got interested in it. So I've been preparing for going to like bigger races for 11 years now.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what's your ultimate goal?

Ray Shim:
To go to Olympics.

Anthony Godfrey:
And how long before you would be trying out for the Olympics?

Ray Shim:
Well this next quarter would be my first year that I could ever try it out.

Anthony Godfrey:
What's the age of eligibility?

Ray Shim:
I think you have to be at least 16.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. And you're gonna turn 16 just in time for that?

Ray Shim:
Yeah, the next Olympics is gonna be in three years, so I'll be able to make it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Do you remember when you started skating?

Ray Shim:
I don't. I started when I was four, so I barely remember anything.

Anthony Godfrey:
So the only thing you remember is skating for your whole life.

Ray Shim:
Exactly.

Anthony Godfrey:
And did you have a talent for it early on? What have you been told about your early abilities?

Ray Shim:
Apparently my coaches said that I have a good talent for it. But yeah, I guess it's still improving right now.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, it's always improving I'm sure. Have you always enjoyed skating? Are there times when it has been more exciting for you than other times?

Ray Shim:
The race season is always exciting and yeah, I've always liked skating,

Anthony Godfrey:
So it's easier to be practicing when you're leading up to a specific race, as opposed to just in the off season.

Ray Shim:
Yeah. Off season you kind of get discouraged a little bit, I guess.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about what the training looks like. There's a lot of time on the ice. Is there training off of the ice first of all?

Ray Shim:
Yes, we do off ice training. We run and stuff, but we have our own technical exercises we do for our off ice training.

Anthony Godfrey:
And so what do some of those technical exercises look like?

Ray Shim:
They're just practically skating, but on the ground.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you're practicing skating on the ground. Is that practicing in place or are you in motion? How does that look?

Ray Shim:
Mostly in place, but we can also wear inline skates, which is roller blades, but yeah, we could also do that to train.

Anthony Godfrey:
Can you show me what that looks like?

Ray Shim:
Sure.

Anthony Godfrey:
Or do you need special equipment to do that in place?

Ray Shim:
I don't need special equipment.

Anthony Godfrey:
All right. Show me what that looks like. I'm having a hard time picturing that.

Ray Shim:
Okay. First get into a 90 degree position.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Ray Shim:
When your knee's here, and then move this way.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you get into the starting position. You're crouched down really where your torso is horizontal with the ground.

Ray Shim:
That's the best position that you should be able to get.

Anthony Godfrey:
And then you're moving your feet from side to side. All right, I'll step aside. Can you show me what that looks like? Okay. So you're holding the position. So you move from side to side and hold the position for as long as you would be gliding. And is that a means of conditioning your legs so that you get accustomed to that movement and have the stamina to hold in position?

Ray Shim:
Yes, it's also easier to hold it off ice because balance is a lot easier. So yeah, we've practiced our technical moments here off ice.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you get the technical aspect of it down. And then once you go to the ice, you're better off because you've tried it on an easier surface. And then when you get to the ice, you're better prepared.

Ray Shim:
Yep.

Anthony Godfrey:
Your core must be just totally ripped.

Ray Shim:
<Laugh> I wish, but not that much.

Anthony Godfrey:
I think you're being modest. There's no way you can do what you just did that low to the ground without being in incredibly good shape. And there's a real grace to the motion from side to side. Is that something that, I guess since if you've been doing it since four, it comes pretty naturally. But do you have to think about that or is that just muscle memory now?

Ray Shim:
Well, I used to have to think about it, but I've done it for a lot of years. So it's like more natural now.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me what length of races you compete in.

Ray Shim:
I race 500 meter races, 1000 meter races, 1500 meter races and 5,000 meter races.

Anthony Godfrey:
So the 5,000 meter race, I assume is a relay.

Ray Shim:
Yes, a relay. Only four person per team, and there's gonna be four teams. I would take a starter position since I have a pretty good start.

Anthony Godfrey:
So different people have different skills. You're good off of the blocks. Are there blocks that you race off of? Or do you just have to start? You just turn your skate and that's your starting block, right?

Ray Shim:
Right. But everyone has to do one and a half laps every time and I'm a good sprinter type.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you get everyone off to a quick start?

Ray Shim:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
What do you like best, solo races or relays?

Ray Shim:
Solo races. They're a lot more exciting than the relays.

Anthony Godfrey:
Because it's just one person against everybody else.

Ray Shim:
Exactly.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now tell me, I have no sense for scale here. Tell me how long a 1500 meter race takes roughly.

Ray Shim:
Average race would be a two minute 32 second race. A fast one would be like a two minute six second.

Anthony Godfrey:
And I would think that two minutes or two and a half minutes of skating at that speed would just, for most people feel like an eternity. Does it feel like a long time for you? Because there's so many things going through your head?

Ray Shim:
It's painful, but the time actually passes by pretty quickly.

Anthony Godfrey:
Will you do multiple races in one day? Or how does that work? There must be a lot of recovery time in between races because you're giving it your all.

Ray Shim:
Normally there's only gonna be like 20, 30 minutes between races. Yeah, we normally do prelims first. So all the 500, 1000 meter, 1500 races on the first day, and then the semifinals on the second day, and finals on the third day.

Anthony Godfrey:
How much time, since you were four years old, do you think you've spent? How much do you spend in an average week?

Ray Shim:
In an average week? Well, every day I spend around six, seven hours training. So times seven, that would be like 30-38, maybe in between, on average I guess.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm not gonna make you do the math. I'm gonna call it over 10,000 hours right now. That's pretty amazing. Six or seven hours a day. So tell me what a typical day looks like.

Ray Shim:
So you wake up at five and you eat a light breakfast, be there at 5:45 AM train until around 10 30. Come to school. After school is done, I go back to the oval train for another three hours, get back home and sleep.

Anthony Godfrey:
So do you have much time for much else? It sounds like that's pretty much your free time.

Ray Shim:
Yeah. Not really, but I manage.

Anthony Godfrey:
And it sounds like that is a stress reliever and kind of energizing for you to be able to be part of the racing and part of the training.

Ray Shim:
Yes. It's also a little bit stressing too, but it's also my stress reliever.

Anthony Godfrey:
Do your friends know that you do speed skating?

Ray Shim:
Well, most of my friends are speed skaters, but in this school, I don't think a lot of people know.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, well they will after this podcast because we're gonna spread it everywhere. You're ready for that, right?

Ray Shim:
Maybe

Anthony Godfrey:
All right. We're now talking with Ray's counselor, David Parker here at Mountain Creek Middle. Tell me about Ray.

David Parker:
Ray is a very polite, quiet kid who is very humble. And one of one of the nicest kids you’ll meet. You would never know, like he had said, what he has done. In fact, I've learned he's been speed skating for these three years, but to the level he's been doing, I found out after last April.

Anthony Godfrey:
You wouldn't know what an animal he is on the ice and how competitive he is.

David Parker:
Right? For example, I knew he was going to be gone, cause we were trying to work some things out for future planning and I knew he was gone. He came back from his trip and he talked to his AP teacher and she asked how it went and he said fine. And then as we reached out to do all this thing, and I think it was interesting as we sent this stuff out and his accomplishments at that race, she approached me saying, he just said it was fine. And he's breaking these records and getting first place and you know, up there on the podium, that went ‘fine.’

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about what accommodations to the schedule and everything you've made to make all of that training possible.

David Parker:
So as Ray said, he's done ed release. This is his third year. He's one of the original Moose in fact right. This is our third year as a school at Mountain Creek. So he and his brother are considered some of the original Moose because Becky Hunsaker, our head counselor was the first hire in the department. And the very first meeting she ever had was with them to help kind of accommodate that. So Ray has always done ed release for the first three periods of the day and then at the afternoon period. And he supplements that with the virtual learning that's been available through the district. So he is here four or five periods a day and is taking AP classes in the midst of all that. And so like he said, he manages and I don't know how.

Anthony Godfrey:
But what he's been able to accomplish.
Stay with us when we come back, we'll head down on the ice with Ray Shim, an aspiring Olympic athlete and successful student.

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Anthony Godfrey:
How much time do you think you've spent in this building?

Ray Shim:
Too much to count. I have no idea.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. So is there always two sets of ice here? Two rinks?

Ray Shim:
Yes. One's for hockey skating, so they have hard boards. And one's for figure skating and skating and stuff.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. And this is the skating one over here?

Ray Shim;
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. I remember hearing about this building, that it is one of the largest buildings without any posts in it at all, so that you could get line of sight for the cameras when the Olympics were here.

Ray Shim:
Oh, I had no idea, but yeah, there are no posts now that you say that.

Anthony Godfrey:
So tell me about your skates. I shouldn't be surprised, but those blades look really long.

Ray Shim:
Yeah. They're 17 and a half inch blades.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh wow. And you keep this cover on 'em to keep 'em sharp and keep from injuring yourself on those blades, I assume?

Ray Shim:
For protecting the blades mostly though.

Anthony Godfrey:
You compete on the short track, so is this pretty much the same as the ice that you would compete on?

Ray Shim:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
How long does it take you to get all suited up? Oh, okay. Now you've just uncovered that blade. Can I take a look at that? That is a serious blade that could protect you in the parking lot on your way to the car. Wow. That is a serious business. And in proportion to the size of your foot, that's a pretty long blade.

Ray Shim:
Yeah. It's, I don't know. It's supposedly supposed to be longer than your foot. So like, you don't have to worry as much about the front and back shifting.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh yeah. Gives you stability.

Ray Shim:
Well, this would last around maybe like half a year to a whole year because you would sharpen them like every two or three times you skate on them. It lasts a pretty long time.

Anthony Godfrey:
Ray, it looks like you're double laced and Velcro strap. It's a bit of a process. So it takes you 10 minutes, but it’d take me 20.

Ray Shim:
Yeah. Double laces are for the tightness of your ankle so that it doesn't become loose. And then Velcro’s more like to keep the laces so that it doesn't.

Anthony Godfrey:
There are no brakes on these things. Once you get going, you just have to kind of turn and put your skates at a 90 degree angle to your trajectory.

Ray Shim:
Well, I guess you would just kind of glide until you start losing speed or kind of like start stepping like that.

Anthony Godfrey:
I can't wait to see you in action here, because this is a lot of build up. All right. Now you're all geared up. You've got your helmet on. You always skate with a helmet, I assume?

Ray Shim:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Very good. And you've got, is this all one piece from shoulders to ankles?

Ray Shim:
Yes. All one piece.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. And your US Speed Skating jacket. That's pretty cool.

Ray Shim:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's awesome. So tell me, how does it feel to be all suited up? Does that feel?

Ray Shim:
It's pretty uncomfortable. It's skin tight. So it wouldn't be something that I would want to wear the whole time. But it's best for your aerodynamic activities.

Anthony Godfrey:
How much skating do you do before a race to warm up

Ray Shim:
Before? They only give you 10 minutes on ice and then you would have to wait until it's your racesnd then just skate then. So you would have to do like a lot of off ice warmups, like running, stretching.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, okay. So a lot of off ice warming up and then 10 minutes on the ice and then you're ready to go.

Ray Shim:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you've got these, these gloves. It looks like you dipped just the fingertips of the gloves in latex. Is that part of your start? Tell me about that. And it's only on the left glove.

Ray Shim:
This is for pivoting. So when you go, when you start going fast and you start to lean more on ice, since you can't just kind of do it without the support of your hand on your ice, this is for like gliding it on.

Anthony Godfrey:
All right. Let's see you out on the ice.

Man, he looks great out there. He's going so fast.

Ray, that was awesome.

Ray Shim:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
That was really, I don't know. I was very overwhelmed seeing you skate. I thought that was incredible. It was so graceful, so fast. And when you finished, you glided all the way around with no effort, you had so much energy you'd built up, you went around once doing nothing.

Ray Shim:
Yeah, these skates glide really easily. So once you get speed, it's kind of hard to slow down.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. When you turned and leaned in and just put your hand down, I just thought, well, that's something I'll never do. That was incredible. I am so impressed. I'm so glad we got to come here to the ice and see you skate. It was just honestly, just astonishing to see how fast you go, how graceful it is, how effortless you make it look.

Ray Shim:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
When we walked up to the ice, there was a kid who is obviously a speed skater who wanted to show you his skates. Do you have that happen sometimes when you're all geared up? You have a very gold medal look right now.

Ray Shim:
Oh, thank you. Yeah, from time to time. He just started learning how to skate so he's probably really interested in like other people who would be skating like him.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. That's really cool that you are already getting the chance to encourage younger skaters. When is your next competition?

Ray Shim:
It's gonna be in August, mid August, right before our school's gonna start again.

Anthony Godfrey:
Do you compete here at any point where I could come and see?

Ray Shim:
In August.

Anthony Godfrey:
In August it's here?

Ray Shim:
Yeah, it’s here this year.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, great. Well, we'll be here. We'll be here. Thank you. Thanks for spending the time Ray, we'll be cheering you on from these stands.

Ray Shim:
Thank you for taking time.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thank you for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you'll do today. We'll see you out there.