Episode 138: What It Takes to Be a Teacher

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello, and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. Teacher Appreciation Week is an opportunity for everyone to honor educators for their dedication to a job that changes lives. On this special "Teacher Appreciation Week" episode of the Supercast we find out what it takes to be a teacher with an inside look at the District's Teacher Education program offered at JATC South in Riverton.

We're here with Brenda Straley, the teacher in the Teacher Education program at JATC South. Thanks for taking the time.

Brenda Straley:
Thank you, Dr. Godfrey, thank you for coming in.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell us about this program. Many people may not realize that we have a Teacher Education program for students who want to be teachers.

Brenda Straley:
Yeah, so we've had this program for gosh, 14 or 15 years now, and I've been doing it for 13. Essentially, you know, we started out with the idea that we needed paraeducators. I think Todd Quarnberg was the one that originally started this. Then we slowly moved into really focusing on being Special Ed and general ed teachers, because obviously we see a need in our district and across the nation for teachers. One of the focuses for this program is that hands on ability to see things hands on. I really feel like if we had the switch of 80% of our time was spent working with a mentor teacher and 20% in the classroom learning things, then we'd be able to have teacher retention and be able to have those real opportunities to learn the things that are gonna happen in your classroom because you know, most teachers leave because of behavior management and they don't learn that.  So being in the practicums two days a week is an important part of this program where they get that hands-on learning. They work with a mentor teacher and are able to really see what it's all about.

We have Introduction to Education 1010, which is an introductory course that all colleges require of students. FHS 1500 is a three credit class and that's Human Growth and Development. And then SPED 1000, which is through Utah State University.  That is combined with the practicum, learning about Special Education, working with kids with disabilities.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. What a great start for kids who are interested in teaching. I love that they have that opportunity while they are still students. Do you think they look at their teachers differently as they're going through this program?

Brenda Straley:
They do. Some of my favorite comments are when I teach them about proximity control, and the teachers in their class will go around and stand by them as they're not paying attention. And then they look at their teacher and say, ‘I know what you're doing. It's called proximity control.’ Sorry teachers. That was me.

Anthony Godfrey:
Secrets out, secrets out.

Brenda Straley:
But yeah, they definitely look at their classes differently and they have more compassion for their teachers. Because they see what goes into being an educator, and they see how hard that teacher works, and how much time they put into a lesson plan.

Anthony Godfrey:
Teachers are taken for granted, there's no question about that. So for students to have that experience and to really see things from the other side, I wonder if every student ought to do a little bit of that so they can appreciate their teachers a little bit more.

Brenda Straley:
I think that's a good idea. Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me what draws students to the program. What do you find makes them want to be teachers as you talk with them?

Brenda Straley:
Gosh, you know, that's a really good question. I think they want to change the world. They come in with this idea of, they want to make a difference in kids' lives. Across the board that's what it's about. And sometimes they come in because a teacher made a difference for them. Sometimes they come in because they didn't have a teacher that made a difference for them. And I talk about that myself, and I say, ‘You know, I got into teaching because I was that student, and I didn't feel like I had a teacher who really understood me and liked me very much.’ And I was like, I'm gonna do something different. I really love high schoolers. I think they're the most amazing humans. And so I see kids getting into education, either wanting to make a difference or, you know, just being somebody that is there for students.

Anthony Godfrey:
Lots of great reasons to become a teacher and to have them reflecting on that at this age is just really exciting. What do you find that students think is most challenging about being a teacher when they first start?

Brenda Straley:
I think they're nervous about being in the classroom and behavior management is probably a big one. Being able to prevent the behavior, so I talk a lot about that. We want to manage our restaurant, we want to manage things. We want to make sure we prevent things from happening. And that's always really hard for students. And also that balance of wanting to be liked by the students. So important for a lot of future teachers.

Anthony Godfrey:
I remember being a student teacher, I was not much older than the high school students that I was teaching.

Brenda Straley:
Oh yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
And my cooperating teacher that I was teaching under and learning from, my mentor teacher, was at the end of her career. And so I was just starting out and it was really strange to teach students that were just a few years younger than me. Do the students in your class teach all grades or do they mostly focus on elementary to start? Tell us a little bit more about that.

Brenda Straley:
Yeah, so mostly preschool to ninth grade. They often wanna go into the high school and I'm like, you guys already know what it's like to be in high school. I'm pretty sure that we can just have you in, you know, elementary. And so what I do is the first practicum that they do is whatever they want. So it's their comfort zone. For some reason, everyone wants to be a second grade teacher. I don't know. So they all go to second grade and then they're like, okay, now it's time to shake it up. Now I want you to go outside of your comfort zone and you're going to something that you are not excited about doing, or you're afraid to do. And that's where growth happens. So then that usually is middle school, bless those middle school teachers. And they do middle school and they either decide they love it or they hate it. And then I encourage them to go into a special education classroom so that they have experience with working with kids with disabilities. And I let them know as well that any class you're in, you're gonna have many students with disabilities in your class. So you might think you don't, but you do. Those invisible disabilities.

Anthony Godfrey:
And helping them understand that being a teacher means focusing on the needs of each individual student in class is is a really great message for them.

Brenda Straley:
Absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
What would you say to students who are considering being part of this program?

Brenda Straley:
Absolutely do it. Even if you don't wanna be a teacher, you can find out if you do or don't. That's just as exciting to me as, you know, if somebody comes in my program and they're like, I wanna be a teacher. And then by the time they're done, they don't, that's just as exciting. That's really important. And that's what we're here for at JATC. That's what we're here for in CTE and Career Development is to give students opportunities to try on different hats and see what's gonna work for them. Because the only way you're gonna know is if you try it. We have so many great programs that you can just kind of try one on.

Anthony Godfrey:
And I think that's a great point. Maybe you join this program and find out you want to be a teacher, or you find out that you didn't want to teach second grade after all, and you do want to teach a different grade. I loved teaching eighth grade myself. Or you find out that it's not for you. And finding out it's not for you, like you said gives you different perspective on other careers you might consider and you learn something about yourself, no matter what.

Brenda Straley:
Absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, I love that you're doing this program. We love our teachers and I love that you're helping us find even more among our own students. And this is a great start for them to be on the path to a wonderful career and a rewarding career as a teacher. So thank you for doing that.

Brenda Straley:
Thank you, Dr. Godfrey. This is a great program. And I just really, I feel it's an honor to be able to teach and do this program.

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Anthony Godfrey:
We're here with students from the Teacher Education program at JATC South, introduce yourselves.

Brooklyn:
I'm Brooklyn.

Jacqueline:
I'm Jacqueline.

Bode:
I'm Bode.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me, why are you taking this class?

Brooklyn:
I have a passion for social studies. I always knew I wanted to do something in that field. And my mom wants to be a teacher too. So we both have kind of decided to go down this path together.

Anthony Godfrey:
So your mom is pursuing a career in education also. And what does she want to teach?

Brooklyn:
The same thing, she's going to USU online and she's really close to finishing her degree. So it's been really cool to see her do that.

Anthony Godfrey:
So she's a little bit ahead of you.

Brooklyn:
Yeah, definitely.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, that's good. She's forging a path. You can learn a lot from her, get some materials from her. Awesome. Why did you decide to take this class?

Jacqueline:
I decided to take it because I really wanted to just broaden my spectrum and like really understand what teaching is and what it's like to be in the education system. And it's given me the opportunity through practicum and interviewing with other teachers. And it's been really great.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what are some of the things that you've learned being in this program?

Jacqueline:
I've learned that teaching is not as easy as it sounds and there's a lot more than it looks. Teachers really dedicate their lives and their wellbeing to the students. And I think that's very important to consider.

Anthony Godfrey:
What is it that you want to teach?

Jacqueline:
I want to be an elementary teacher, fifth grade, probably.

Anthony Godfrey:
Great. And tell me why you decided to join the program.

Bode:
So originally I applied to the school with like the goal of going to Computer Programming, but I applied for Teachers Ed as well as a backup, because I always like helping people. That's always something I love doing throughout my entire life. So I didn't get Computer Programming, but I did get this class. And so over the course of it, I've grown a lot more passionate about helping out kids with their education and being able to be there for them and be a facilitator and also to help know that they're cared for and have a space to learn.

Anthony Godfrey:
What are some things that you learned that maybe surprised you?

Bode:
I guess I learned that both that maybe teachers deserve a little bit better, but also that teachers have a lot more than I thought too. It's like both those things at the same time, because I know that teachers have a lot more skills that they learn than I originally thought, and that they have a lot more things to do and that, so they have a lot more ways to connect with students and to be able to give them what they need in order to succeed in the class.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what do you want to teach?

Bode:
I'm kind of split between a lot of things right now. But right now, if I go into high school it would either be chemistry or astronomy. And if it's Special Ed it would probably be elementary, maybe like something like Severe Special Ed for like sixth grade, which is where I'm volunteering right now actually.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. So you have a wide range of options ahead of you.

Bode:
Yeah, I do.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, many people may not realize that there's a competitive aspect to being in this program. There are state and national competitions and you guys are participating at the national level. So tell me about that.

Brooklyn:
I competed in the division called Creative Lecture. It's like public speaking, but it's supposed to be around like a Ted Talk type of style. I chose that because I feel like I'm really good at kind of talking to people. Like, I'm not good at reciting off like a memorized speech. And so I thought that would be better for me because I'm really good at like talking and explaining myself through. And so that's the division I chose and I think it turned out really, really well.

Anthony Godfrey:
And you're going to Nationals.

Brooklyn:
Yeah, I'm going to Nationals. So I think I did a good job picking a division.

Anthony Godfrey:
What's your topic?

Brooklyn:
It was on what schools can do to help kids struggling from the pandemic. So like helping kids with their social and emotional health.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what category did you compete in?

Jacqueline:
I competed in Children's Literature Pre-K. So I was the illustrator of the book, my friend Abby, she wrote the book and it was just very, very fun going through and finding careers. So we titled our book Careers in the Alphabet and we wanted to really talk about that even though it's a Pre-K book. We wanted to like start broadening children's spectrums like about what's in the world, what you can accomplish and what you can go through. There's a lot of jobs and there's a lot of opportunities that are misrepresented and not really talked about in schools. I think it's important that kids are exposed to lots of different careers and lots of different things so they can really feel passionate about what they're doing.

Anthony Godfrey:
Is being an illustrator something that you want to do long term?

Jacqueline:
An illustrator would be a very good job. Yeah. I really do enjoy art.

Anthony Godfrey:
What category did you compete in?

Bode:
So I competed in Exploring Support Services Careers. So I had to job shadow someone who does a non essential teacher, like support service for students in the school. So I did an SLP at a preschool who helps out with children who struggle with pronouncing certain parts of words.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what did you learn through that experience?

Bode:
Oh, I learned a lot. I learned that it's really, really fun. I learned that a lot of people in support services, especially in schools, have a much more flexible like schedule and like curriculum that they have to teach and that they get a lot of support from the school to do what they need to do.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, great. Well congratulations on making Nationals and good luck back in DC.

Students:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me your names.

Kylie:
I'm Kylie.

Aubrey:
Aubrey.

Kali:
I'm Kali.

Markelle:
I'm Markelle.

Speaker 8:
I'm Elinor.

Anthony Godfrey:
What makes each of you want to be a teacher?

Kylie:
I really like people paying attention to me. Like, I think it's really fun but also, I just, I wanna see like myself making a difference in the world.

Aubrey:
Mine actually came from when I was a little kid. My mom was a preschool teacher and that really kinda like, you know, little kids think, oh, I wanna be just like mom, like just like dad or whoever. And as I grew older and saw more examples of like the impact teachers can have on students and just even the impact that they have on their students' learning, I really want to do that. Cause I think education is really important for kids and I want them to understand that not only is it important, but can be fun. It doesn't just have to be here, we're gonna sit at this desk and we're gonna take the notes and just move on.

Kali:
I've always wanted to be a teacher when I was little. I wanted to because I love bossing people around. But ever since fourth grade I had a really inspirational teacher who taught me to be myself and how to inspire others. And so just ever since then, I've been so inspired by her and I've wanted to be a teacher just like her, who can just help shape the students of our future.

Markelle:
I actually didn't wanna be a teacher until about 10th grade because I always liked the idea of being a veterinarian. And then I had somebody tell me you're really patient with people and I think you'd be like a teacher. And then I started thinking about it and then the aspect of changing his child's life really pushed me over to want to be a teacher.

Elinor:
Both of my parents are teachers and I saw how much they learned from the students and how much they taught the students and made an impact. And how like my mom was having students from, I don't know, however many years ago like contact her and be like, ‘Hey, I'm getting married. You should come.’ And so like, just like the connection, like in building with the students, like I wanted that and making an impact.

Anthony Godfrey:
You've all hit on really important and rewarding aspects of being a teacher, especially having everyone pay attention to you, you know, that's key. I'm really excited that you want to be teachers and you're all hired right now on the spot. So that's exciting for me that I just recruited five more teachers. So tell me about competition. I did not realize until a few years ago that there were teacher competitions. Tell me what category you competed in and a little bit about that.

Kylie:
So I was competing in lesson delivery and like lesson planning and delivery. And I taught a lesson about like how to crochet. I got third place, which is kind of cool, but it was really fun and really eye opening, just like to see the learning process of something I've been doing, like for the past 12 years. Just being able to see people starting out and I didn't win, but that's okay because I think that the process of it was really cool.

Anthony Godfrey:
And that's really the trick of it, is helping someone else get good at something you're already good at.

Kylie:
Yeah.

Aubrey:
So my contest, well not contest, competition was researching learning challenges. So this one was more, it was a partnership. So my partner was Braxon, but he's not here right now. And what we did is we went and we researched. The topic this year was visual impairment and the challenges they could have with learning and just in general, but also what could we do to help make it better? Like what are some possible solutions? And we ended up getting second place and that was pretty exciting.

Anthony Godfrey:
Great. Congratulations.

Kali:
All right. So one thing I just wanna say is I had no idea Educators Rising was even a thing until being here at JATC South and I want more people know about it because it was really an amazing opportunity to just better develop my skills. So I did public speaking and I kind of talked about in my speech, just the achievement gap between white, Black, Hispanic, and low income students. And just how schools and teachers can just improve equality within schools, especially after the challenges that came from virtual learning. Just doing all of that research really opened up my eyes to a lot of things that I hadn't recognized within teaching. And it also just bettered my personal philosophy about teaching.

Markelle:
So I also did public speaking. The topic this year was what are the gaps that people have had between white, Black, Hispanic and low income learning through virtual schooling. Our task was to come up with solutions as to what we could do to fix that. I loved learning and researching about different solutions and different things that people have done and kind of implementing them into my own. And then I made sure to mention, you know, the issues with like school funding, because none of this would be possible without teachers. And so I think, out of my whole speech, that was something that I loved so much was being able to tell the judges, you know, this school funding is such a big thing that nobody really ever tends to realize unless you're in education. So, I didn't place, which is totally fine. As long as I got my message across, I'm fine.

Anthony Godfrey:
And you learned a lot.

Markelle:
I did. I learned a ton.

Elinor:
So I wrote a children's book with a partner named Gracee, she's not here right now also. But we wrote a Kindergarten through 3rd grade children's book called Alphabet Animal Party. And like our focus was kind of it was ABC. So we had a different animal for each letter of the alphabet and they were all coming together to create a party for their best friend. And we just wanted to kind of put across the message that like, it doesn't matter who you are, where you came from, but coming together and creating something for a friend can bring unity.

Anthony Godfrey:
Great message and a great experience I'm sure. Well, you're all fabulous. I'm so impressed. And it's been a real pleasure talking with you and good luck in your career. I look forward to seeing you in just a few years.

Students:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks again for joining us on the Supercast. Remember education is the most important thing you'll do today. We'll see you out there.