Episode 261: West Hills Middle School Counselor Travels to 50 States Playing Pickleball with Strangers at Every Single Stop

Anthony Godfrey:
When you are not counseling, you are pickleballing.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes, I'll be on the pickleball court.

Anthony Godfrey:
Is that a verb? Pickleballing?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes, pickleballing. Okay, so I traveled to 36 states in 19 days, and I played in 33 of those 36 states that I traveled to.

Anthony Godfrey:
Any of these events set up in advance?

Lorraine Rupper:
Nope. I just show up randomly.

Anthony Godfrey:
You showed up.

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Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. It's a sport that's taking off across the country, but I'm not sure anyone else has taken off across the country themselves to play pickleball in every state.

On the show today, we have some fun with West Hills Middle School counselor Lorraine Rupper. Find out how she managed to travel to all 50 states, playing a pickup game of pickleball with strangers at every stop, and making memories to last a lifetime.

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We're talking now with Lorraine Rupper here at West Hills Middle School. You're a counselor here at West Hills, but when you are not counseling, you are pickleballing.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes, I'll be on the pickleball court.

Anthony Godfrey:
Is that a verb? Pickleballing?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes, pickleballing.

Anthony Godfrey:
You have done so across the country this last summer. Tell me the stats up front and then let's talk about the experience.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay, so I traveled to 36 states in 19 days, and I played in 33 of those 36 states that I traveled through this summer. In 19 days.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you played in 33 states. What made you say to yourself, "You know what? I need to play this across the country."

Lorraine Rupper:
I just wanted to spread the love of pickleball, and I feel like I am a good player. So normally, lower-level players, they always want to play with the upper-level players. So I'm like, I'm an upper-level player, and I want to meet people that have the same passion I do of playing pickleball. And I'm like, “I've never been to the south and I haven't been to the east. So here's a great way to do it.”

Anthony Godfrey:
So you were helping people elevate their game by having them play with someone who has some skills beyond the casual pickleballer.

Lorraine Rupper:
Mm-hmm.

Anthony Godfrey:
How many states had you traveled to before embarking on this journey?

Lorraine Rupper:
I had played in 17 states.

Anthony Godfrey:
You played in 17.

Lorraine Rupper:
17.

Anthony Godfrey:
So if my math is right, you've now played in all 50 states? Is that right?

Lorraine Rupper:
All 50 states, yep.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, so 33 states in 19 days. Tell me, what does playing pickleball in a state count as? Because obviously, you had to cram in multiple states into one day.

Lorraine Rupper:
Mm-hmm.

Anthony Godfrey:
Talk to me about how that happened.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay, so there was a general plan that somebody has done to play pickleball in every state. I could skip some of those because I had done most of the western states already. And then they would say where to go next. So sometimes I would go by that plan, and sometimes I had to deviate from that plan.

Like West Virginia, it says to play at a certain spot. So I went to West Virginia and I went to that spot, and I found a pickleball court, but there's nobody to play with. It's in the middle of summer, it's noon, and nobody wants to play on a court at noon when it's 95 degrees with 95% humidity. So I'm like, what should I do now? I can sit around and wait, which I did some.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you listened to John Denver for a second.

Lorraine Rupper:
Of course.

Anthony Godfrey:
“Mountain Mama, West Virginia”, then no one came.

Lorraine Rupper:
Nobody came. I even sang and I'm a terrible singer. Maybe that's why they escaped and ran away. So I just was like, well, let's see where else we can play in Virginia. So I drove for three hours, found another place to play, and I sat there waiting for people. I found a court, which by the way, all the courts aren't accurate for their addresses because I ended up at some lady's house and she's all like, I said, “is there a pickleball court here?”

Anthony Godfrey:
Did she play pickleball with you and make lemonade for you?

Lorraine Rupper:
No. So I ended up going to a park and waiting and waiting and waiting, probably like an hour. And then a couple came back from a little trip and then there was two couples. One went to the truck and then I bravely went over to the other one and said, “Would you please play pickleball with me?” And they're like, “What's pickleball?” And I told them what it was. And the wife who was in flip flops and she's like, “No”. And the husband's like, “I can give it a shot if you will run my errands for me, honey.” And she's like, “Yeah, I can do that.” 

Anthony Godfrey:
So she ran errands while he played pickleball with a woman he'd never met. Wow. Okay.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah. So we went over there and we played skinny singles on the court and it was super fun. And he was really good. He said, “I played tennis in high school” and I was like “Tennis players, make good pickleball players.” And he played really great. Of course, he didn't beat me, but he was good. But I was so excited to mark West Virginia off the list. I'm like, “Hey, let me give you a paddle.” And I gave him and his wife a paddle. I gave her some pickleball earrings, gave him some balls and say, come back and play again.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. Now I'm noticing your pickleball earrings. That's next level stuff as well. Any of these events set up in advance?

Lorraine Rupper:
Nope. I would just show up randomly.

Anthony Godfrey:
You showed up. Did you, as you talked with these folks, did you make friends that you stayed in contact with?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes. There's a couple like in Alabama was my favorite place to play. They're like, “Hey, Lorraine, we're having a luncheon afterwards. A little picnic. Do you want to come?” And I'm like, “Sure.”

Anthony Godfrey:
You didn't say I've got 25 states left to go. I got to get out of here.

Lorraine Rupper:
No, Heck no, not when they're friendly to me. They said, “Oh, we're having salads and ice cream.” And I'm like, “Two things you don't have on a road trip, salads and ice cream. I am there.” There's one day a month that they do this luncheon and I just happened to be on the day that they had their lunch and not planned or anything.

Anthony Godfrey:
So even though West Virginia left you high and dry for a few hours, you also hit the jackpot a few times along the way.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, I did, yes. It was up and down, up and down. I just had to roll with the flow.

Anthony Godfrey:
What was the most difficult state to get a match in besides West Virginia? Were there other people who were reluctant to play with you or other locations that were difficult?

Lorraine Rupper:
So I would usually get the same reaction, because a lot of times people have their own group of four that are pretty good players. And so they would look at me skeptically and like, I would say Rhode Island, for example. And so I'd say, “I'll just sit here and watch you play a couple of games.” So I would sit with my head in my little umbrella. And I was watching him play. And then one of them felt bad, of course. And so he's like, “Why don't you take my spot one game?” And the one guy was still like, “Oh, I'm really skeptical.” So I played a game. And the guy's like, “Will you be my partner next, Lorraine?”

Anthony Godfrey:
You seem like a very nice person, very personable. Why would they be suspect of someone who just wants to play pickleball?

Lorraine Rupper:
Because I'm an old lady and they think I'm not going to be very good. They want to play, get some good games in while they're playing. But once they find out how good I am, then they're like, “Oh, yeah, we want her to play some more because she's good competition.”

Anthony Godfrey:
So were the southern states as friendly as they are reputed to be?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes. It's the Northeastern that I had an issue with.

Anthony Godfrey:
OK.

Lorraine Rupper:
Like, can I tell you a story about Maine?

Anthony Godfrey:
Sure, please.

Lorraine Rupper:
OK. So we went to Maine. And in York, Maine, I was there and I went to a private club. Because it was one of the places--

Anthony Godfrey:
Did you hop the fence or cut a hole in and crawl through?

Lorraine Rupper:
To me, it looked like a public place.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you just walked in like you knew what you were doing.

Lorraine Rupper:
And I was in my little skirt and with my paddle--

Anthony Godfrey:
You're a pickle baller, you walk in like you own the place.

Lorraine Rupper:
And they're like, “This is a private club.” And I said, “Well, I'm willing to pay a fee if you'll let me play here.” He just told me to go on to the high school. And then he said, “Oh, you have to be a member or a guest of a member. That's the only people that play here.” So there's like five guys standing across in the same room. And I looked at all of them. And I said, “Hey, can I be somebody's guest?” And they're busy looking at the ceiling, looking at the floor, anywhere but making eye contact with me. So he said, “Well, I can just give you directions to the high school” where it's 95 degrees with 95% humidity. So I'm like, OK. So he gave me directions to the high school. I went to the high school. Kind of hard to find, but I finally found the courts. And went and there was a lady and her son. So I went and asked them if they would play with me. And they said, yes, I was really happy. So I played me against those two. And I think I had to play left-handed just to– I would never beat anybody 11-0. So I'd make sure I'd go left-handed if I was too good. And I always had the whole court. 

Anthony Godfrey:
So you always wanted to give them a point.

Lorraine Rupper:
Always. I would never beat anybody 11-0. And I asked them if I could take a picture with them. And they're like, no. So you'll notice on my map, the empty court right there goes to Maine.

Anthony Godfrey:
OK. So yeah, let's take a look. You did take a picture with everyone. How wonderful.

Lorraine Rupper:
I did.

Anthony Godfrey:
And you wrote down their names. Oh, yeah. You can see just how friendly they all are. What a wonderful map. So you've laid this out. Great memories. OK. I'm noticing that there are-- yeah, look at that. 

Lorraine Rupper:
So the month of June, 19 days on the road. And then the month of July, putting the map together. Because that was not an easy task either. Making sure the pictures are the right sizes. Make sure they fit on the area that's indicated. Make sure they're not covering up any states.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wisconsin looks like they were having a great time.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, we had a great time in Wisconsin.

Anthony Godfrey:
Emily, Ben, Gary, and Annie. They seem like nice people.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah, they're a family. And this one right there, sometimes in South Dakota, I could only play with the one guy because other people were already gone. Or they had their own little courts or their own little thing going on. So he played me skinny singles. And he won, I think, the first game. We played again. And I won. He's like, “Oh, it's a rubber match. Now we have to play again.” And so I beat him. And he walks off the court. And he says, “This is the first time I've ever lost in singles.”

Anthony Godfrey:
Really?

Lorraine Rupper:
So I was like, whoa, that's good to know.

Anthony Godfrey:
Have you ever thought about what story he's telling other people about losing for the first time at Pickleball?

Lorraine Rupper:
He probably wouldn't tell them.

Anthony Godfrey:
You have great stories. But you've given all these people some great stories. That's for sure.

Lorraine Rupper:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Do you tell them when you introduce yourself that you are traveling the country and you're checking off states? Or do you just say, “would you like to play Pickleball?”

Lorraine Rupper:
Most of the time, if it's just three people, I'll just say, “Hey, can I play?” And then I play. If it's four, then you're the odd man out, right? And then I just want to get one game in. I want-- I'm trying to play Pickleball in every state. That was Missouri, that they had their own group of four. And I told them I was trying to play Pickleball in every state. And they're like, “Let's get you on the court then.”

Anthony Godfrey:
You don't pick out the one who's doing the worst and say, “Look, that guy over there in the purple shorts, I want to take his place. And you know you need someone to take his place.”

Lorraine Rupper:
No, because most groups will have everybody that's similar in their ability. Like they're all 4.0s or all 3.5.

Anthony Godfrey:
OK. So they're all pretty well matched.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah. And one in Pennsylvania, Erie, Pennsylvania, they did say, “What's your ranking?” So they wanted to tell my ranking before I told them.

Anthony Godfrey:
What is your ranking?

Lorraine Rupper:
Right now it's 4.6 something. But I've been as high as 5.0.

Anthony Godfrey:
When you say 4.6, does that get their attention and make them want to play?

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, well, at the time I was at 4.8. And they're like, “You could be my partner.” And then they pulled me over. Because they're mostly 4.0s.

Anthony Godfrey:
So that helps.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah, yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's good.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's good. And did you ever get sick of Pickleball?

Lorraine Rupper:
No, no. But I did want to leave in Vermont. Vermont was a challenge. I was like, if home--

Anthony Godfrey:
We don't have a lot of listeners in Vermont so go ahead. Lay it down.

Lorraine Rupper:
Well, I was in Vermont. I was just like, if home was an hour away, I would go home.

Anthony Godfrey:
Really?

Lorraine Rupper:
I was not in it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Was it because of Vermont or because at that stage of the trip, it just felt like a lot?

Lorraine Rupper:
No, I was just going to so many places and trying to find people to play. I went to all the five places that were in that town. And they're like, “Oh, you might have to go to this other town two and a half hours away.” And I was like, “Oh.” And I was just so tired of traveling. I'd gone all the way up. And I was just like, “I don't want to be here anymore. I just want to be home.”

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us. When we come back more tales of travel from our counselor with a passion for pickleball.

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Anthony Godfrey:
Now, I'm told that you have a pickleball drawer in your office. You have lots of drawers in your office. Can you tell me which one and what's going on in there?

Lorraine Rupper:

You want to open that one?
Anthony Godfrey:
Sure. Let's open her up. Oh, my heavens. Well, that's a...That is a heavy box. Wow. That is heavier than a tennis racket. Look at that. September Showdown, Salt Lake County. Good grief.

Lorraine Rupper:
Notice it's a gold medal.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh yeah.

Lorraine Rupper:
That one's bronze. 

Anthony Godfrey:
The Big Dill Pickleball Tournament. That may be my favorite right there. Oh wow. How long have you been playing pickleball to earn all of these awards?

Lorraine Rupper:
About 10 years.

Anthony Godfrey:
Portneuf Medical Center. These are not participant awards. These are the awards of a victor. Utah Pickleball first place, PTSD awareness. I like that one.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. That's a ton. Bravo. Congratulations.

Lorraine Rupper:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
You are not a casual player. That was established right out of the chute. Look at that. Now, I understand that you did have an afterschool program at West Jordan Middle School.

Lorraine Rupper:
Mm-hmm.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about that.

Lorraine Rupper:
Well, they just needed someone to do different activities. If you have a hobby or something you like to do, sign up. So I'm like, okay, Miss Garrison, I will sign up to do pickleball afterschool. And so they had lines painted in the gym and we would just set up the nets. Once a week, we'd get the kids out, teach them to play, and we'd play. And it was so fun. Super fun.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. That's fantastic. And the kids take to it quickly?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah. It's easy to pick up and hit a ball with a paddle, right? 

Anthony Godfrey:
Easy to play. Difficult to master.

Lorraine Rupper:
The hardest part is learning how to keep score.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Switching up that first time and yeah. 

Lorraine Rupper:
Three numbers. I'm like, the third number is always a one or a two. I'm a numbers person because I graduated in math education. I taught math for 20 years. That's what I did at West Jordan Middle School.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Lorraine Rupper:
So I taught math there. But then I was able to get a counseling job. And so...

Anthony Godfrey:
I can never keep track. I stop and I say, no, wait, what was it? 75-1? 751? I don't know. What is the next adventure for you? This is tremendous that you took this trip. I love a good road trip. And I'm quite envious actually that you have managed to see so many states in such a short period of time. I've seen all 50 states, but it took me 50 years to do it. Not 19 days and one other trip. So tell me, what's the next adventure? Meeting you and seeing the energy that you have, I can't imagine that you're done.

Lorraine Rupper:
I'm not done, but I don't know what that next adventure could be yet.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. Yeah.

Lorraine Rupper:
Maybe it's teaching more middle schoolers how to play and get the passion of playing.

Anthony Godfrey;
I like the sound of that. I like the sound of that. I know you have your equipment, so let's step out and knock the ball around a little bit.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay.

Anthony Godfrey:
So show me some basics that will, you know, make it so that I can take the heat and stay in the kitchen.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay. You want to hold it with one hand?

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Lorraine Rupper:
Are you left-handed?

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm left-handed. I apologize.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, no, I love left-handed players.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, okay. Great. 

Lorraine Rupper:
All right. So you just want to hit it soft and into the kitchen. There you go. Take one step in and one step out. There you go.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, it feels good.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, that's good. If you want to, go ahead and whack it.

Anthony Godfrey:
I have a feeling you're going to whack it back if I do though.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, that's true. That might happen. You never know.

Anthony Godfrey:
So show me something that you do in the kitchen to throw people off.

Lorraine Rupper:
Well, not necessarily in the kitchen, but outside the kitchen.

Anthony Godfrey:
Right, around the kitchen.

Lorraine Rupper:
So say you're dinking like this, dinking like this.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oops. No, that's not. It's a good thing people can't hear it not going over the net on the other side. Well, my instinct was to reach out and grab it because it was going by me for sure. Wow. It even kind of stings. You really put some mustard on that one.

Lorraine Rupper:
Sorry, hopefully I didn't sting you too much.

Anthony Godfrey:
No, no, it's great. Lay it on me. Lorraine, it's been a pleasure talking with you, playing with you, and I'm really excited for whatever next adventure you have. I think there are a lot of lucky people out there that got to play pickleball with you across the country.

Lorraine Rupper:
I was lucky to play with them really. Some of them some great people out there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for the time and thanks for everything you do here at West Hills.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay.

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Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you will do today. We'll see you out there.

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