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Hope Bevelheimer:
I play para, I talk to you about …. we’re in a sled.

Anthony Godfrey:
No one has beaten you at net in international competition.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Correct. I'm a three-time world gold medalist. Living, breathing, sweating hockey from all year. Amputation wasn't the end for me, it was just the beginning. But it could have been the end for me if I chose to have a PDN.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. She is a motivational speaker, an amputee, an athlete, a humanitarian, and a goalie for the gold medal-winning USA para ice hockey team. On this episode of the Supercast, we meet West Jordan High School graduate Hope Bevelheimer. We hear Hope's inspirational story of tragic challenges in life, leading her to hard-earned triumphs. And you'll find out what happens when we hit the ice with this elite athlete.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're here at the Accord Ice Center to talk with Hope and Austin about hockey. Introduce yourselves a little bit and let's get into it.

Hope Bevelheimer:
My name is Hope Bevelheimer. I played for the para ice hockey women's team. So I play in a sled and I'm a three-time world gold medalist.

Austin Facer:
I'm Austin Facer. I've never won a gold medal in anything. I do a podcast called SLC Puck and just a local hockey content creator doing all kinds of goofy stuff with hockey here in Utah.

Anthony Godfrey.
Hope, how did you get started in hockey?

Hope Bevelheimer:
It was prior, I'm an amputee, it was prior to my amputation. I was born with club feet so I had more braces. I couldn't walk much. It was a lot of pain and stuff like that. And so my roommate at the time, she was a recreational therapist actually for the Salt Lake County. And so she had an adaptive program that they were starting and piloting back in 1999 and wanted to see if I wanted to participate. So I got in a sled of September 1999.

Anthony Godfrey:
Playing hockey since the 1900s.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yes. For us, older generation, yes, the 1900s.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's right. And you went to West Jordan High School.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
Talk to me about your time at West Jordan High.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Well, I was a little different student. I had 29 surgeries before I had amputated. So all my high school, junior high and school years were spent in and out of the hospital. And so I had a lot of support from the school teachers and things like that. They would show up at my house on a Monday. I wasn't homeschooled. I called it hospital schooled. They would show up at my school/house on Monday, give me a load of the work, teach me if they needed to teach me, and then come back on Friday, pick up all the work, and then give me tests and all that stuff. And then when I was in school, very supportive. I had to be in a wheelchair sometimes. I know-- I don't know if West Jordan still has it, but there was an elevator. So I had a key to the elevator, like all sorts of things.

Anthony Godfrey:
There is an elevator, yes.

Hope Bevelheimer:
So I was an elevator rider, all those things, but they made accommodations for me. And it was difficult because we didn't have Google. We didn't have all that stuff back when I was going into school. I graduated in '95, so none of this technology we had then. It was just more difficult to try to learn on your own. Because I had support from the teachers, but I was mostly in the hospital most of the time.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about World Cup competition. You're a three-time gold medalist. Just in November, you beat Canada in Norway.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's really exciting. Talk to me about that trajectory.

Hope Bevelheimer:
We have, I've played international competition for a decade. USA Hockey took us over in 2019, so we were privately, they were trying to get this going back when I started. But 2019, USA Hockey took us over, and then that's when we started doing bigger international competition. Then COVID took over. And then we got put on hold for a little bit, but I went to Czech Republic, I've been to Norway twice, I've been to all the places in Canada, but I have not lost an international competition. When I've been in net, nobody has won against me.

Anthony Godfrey:
No one has beaten you at net in international competition.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Correct. I have beat all international competitions for a decade.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's amazing.

Hope Bevelheimer:
So that is a feat that I'm very excited about.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, that is impressive. So you started in 2019, and then everything was put on ice during COVID, or off ice during COVID, and then back on ice after COVID.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
Never defeated. That's incredible.

Hope Bevelheimer:
The last one we just played, we went to Canada to do a border battle. We call it the border battle, it's just us and Canada. We just go head-to-head, play a three-series. It was a close game, it was four to three. So yeah, I let three goals in, but they still didn't beat me.

Anthony Godfrey:
Are Canadians polite even in hockey?

Hope Bevelheimer:
No, they don't like us.

Anthony Godfrey:
They don't think so. And they definitely don't like losing.

Hope Bevelheimer:
No, and then I like chirping in their head, so that makes it worse for them.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, it's the trash talk. Is there a hockey trash talk?

Hope Bevelheimer:
There is plenty of trash talk.

Austin Facer:
Chirp is the term for trash talk in hockey. It's a big part of the game. A good chirp, yeah.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Because as a goalie, your skill is about 15%, your body is another percent, but it's a lot of mental. You have to be in your game when you're in goal. You have to have your head space on. If you don't, it's going to be a mess. So I like to get into other people's head space, so they have a messy game.

Anthony Godfrey:
Austin, tell me about how you got started in hockey.

Austin Facer:
Yeah, when I was younger, I was really into hockey movies, and The Mighty Ducks was a favorite of mine. I talk about that quite frequently on my podcast. I could probably recite the whole movie line by line. Around that same time, being like eight or nine, the Olympics were here, and there was a bigger conversation about hockey. I remember I just would beg my mom to take me to public skate at the old Bountiful Bubble Rec Center, which no longer exists. But that turned into playing and then playing all throughout high school. Kind of got out of the hockey scene for a little bit, just as an adult, just working in sports and different kinds of jobs. Kraig Williams, who is actually on your team at the Jordan School District, was a boss of mine at the Salt Lake Bees. So did a lot of sports-related jobs there. And then when the hockey club came to town, I just kind of put everything together with my sports background and love of hockey as a kid and built SLC Puck, which is a podcast that I do twice a week now.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's fantastic. And where can people find that?

Austin Facer:
You can find it way too easily. That's kind of the goal. It's on YouTube, Apple, Spotify. I have all the social media handles too at SLC Puck. So I try to put stuff out and bother people on their phones as much as possible.

Anthony Godfrey:
Perfect.

Austin Facer:
Yeah, I'm easy to find.

Anthony Godfrey:
I see that USA on your shirt stands for unity, sacrifice, and attitude. Talk to me about that.

Hope Bevelheimer:
It is that. You have to have a close-knit team. You have to sacrifice many sacrifices. For a decade for playing, I was telling my friends and stuff like that, I haven't had a real vacation because all my vacation hours go to USA Hockey because I have a regular job. So you have to dedicate. It's off-ice training. It's on-ice training. I’m living breathing sweating hockey all year. They're like, "When's your season off?" I'm like, "It's not off." On the off-season, we have to still condition and do all the things.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me what has been the greatest positive impact that hockey's had in your life.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Oh, it has saved my life many a time. It just has given me... It's given me hope. It's given me things to look forward to. I never thought I would be starting back in '99. Did I ever think I would be at this level of competition? No, it never crossed my mind. But the ability to just be able to participate in something that's a team effort and a group effort and you're all friends and off-ice, on-ice, all those things, the closer the team is, the better it turns out.

Anthony Godfrey:
How about for you?

Austin Facer:
I think there's just so many great life lessons that can be learned with hockey. Probably just all sports in general, but I think hockey really amplifies these attributes you need to be a successful adult. You can learn as a kid. I think there's a certain assertiveness that you learn in hockey. There's teamwork, problem-solving. Never say never. Never surrender kind of attitude. There was a game last night in the Stanley Cup final where the Edmonton Oilers were trailing by three goals in the first period. They came back and scored four unanswered goals to win four to three. I think there's a lot of mental fortitude that you can take from that and apply to everything.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm sure Hope has seen that in her life, just the skills that she's learned on the ice. I feel that way too, apply to anything you do.

Hope Bevelheimer:
I know with hockey, what I love about hockey is every second counts. Every second, it could be .4 of a second and somebody can score. It's such a great game. That's the thing about football, the last two minutes, if they're up like whatever, the game's pretty much over. Two minutes and they could be up three, it still doesn't matter. We've got two minutes to make this happen.

Anthony Godfrey:
It happens fast.

Hope Bevelheimer:
It happens fast.

Austin Facer:
It can happen.

Hope Bevelheimer:
The team comes together. If you just don't have that positive attitude, everybody will just . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
When you think about it, the penalty is that you don't get your whole team. The penalty is that when you say every minute counts, it's that you lose minutes with a teammate.

Hope Bevelheimer:
It makes a more interesting game, I think, when there's penalty minutes. I have played many times three on my side and they've got the power play and I've had to play hard. You just got to be on your skill in your game and just have a good game. Every game's different, too. It not, I'm going to go walk out here and play and it's going to be exactly like the last game. Nope, it's never the same game. You can score in the corner, you could get a penalty. I've not played two games that have been the same.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us when we come back. We're on the ice going for a goal.

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Hope Bevelheimer:
Just telling him the irony is I think I started here.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh really? Did you?

Hope Bevelheimer:
At the Accord in 1999.

Anthony Godfrey:
'99?

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah, because I played at the Accord in County Rec, but the County Rec didn't open until late '99.

Anthony Godfrey:
And I read that County Rec is how you got started in hockey.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah, it was the recreation program, adaptive sports.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Yeah, fantastic. Tell me about your equipment here before we head out on the ice.

Hope Bevelheimer:
So I play para ice hockey and what that is is we're in a sled and we have to have sticks. Regular, we call the regular players, the forwards or the defense have two sticks that have these picks on the bottom. So they propel with those picks.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, so they use …?

Hope Bevelheimer:
They use those picks and they kind of skate with both of them.

Anthony Godfrey:
So it's two sets of three spikes that are on the end of the handle of the stick.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you use this to propel yourself?

Hope Bevelheimer:
Correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Hope Bevelheimer:
But because I'm a goalie, I can't hold another stick. So we stick spikes on it. So when I propel on the ice, I push with this.

Anthony Godfrey:
So and this is your, this is the glove.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah, just normal glove. Standard glove. We just take a shoe.

Anthony Godfrey:
It doesn't look standard. It looks like it comes from a horror movie or something.

Hope Bevelheimer:
It does. It can be a horror movie.

Anthony Godfrey:
You know?

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah, so.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow, because it's just very complex. It's got all these spikes on it.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
And wow, can I try it on?

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah, go ahead.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm left-handed. So normally that would be.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah, you would yell back. And this is just a standard one. There's nothing special about the back. Yeah, throw that one on.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's actually kind of heavy.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah, they're heavy a little bit.

Anthony Godfrey:
Even just holding it. Okay.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Now try to close your hand in it.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm not even going to try. Yeah. That's wow. Okay.

Hope Bevelheimer:
So yeah, we play a little different than we call them standups. So standup hockey plays a little different than we do.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Hope Bevelheimer:
But yeah, you propel yourself with two picks and then the goalies have spikes. And the regular players have blades like standup players do on the bottom of their sleds. The bottom of my sled has plastic blades.

Anthony Godfrey:
So why does the bottom of your sled have plastic blades?

Hope Bevelheimer:
So I can go slide side, front, and backwards all over the place.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Hope Bevelheimer:
So I can propel in circles. I can do all sorts of things.

Anthony Godfrey:
Huh.

Hope Bevelheimer:
So if I had standard blades like the regular, like the rest of the players do, I would only be able to go forwards and backwards. Because they're in a sled, they can't pick up their foot to step over.

Anthony Godfrey:
So goalies have different equipment head to toe.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Correct. Yep.

Anthony Godfrey:
Different mask, different.

Hope Bevelheimer:
No, masks the same.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, the mask is the same.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Exactly the same.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Chest protectors are the same.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Gloves are the … glove and blocker are the same. The only thing is that we have to have is add spikes, the spikes on the glove. Yeah, we have to add spikes. So everything else is the same. You ready for this? I told him not to be nice. He doesn't have to be nice.

Anthony Godfrey:
Austin's going to go full out here. Let's see what he's got. Let's see what he's got. You have spikes and he doesn't. So, you know …

Hope Bevelheimer:
He's fine. I'll just hit him in the shin guards.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hit him in the shin guards. All right. Well, at least you warned him.

Hope Bevelheimer:
I did. It won't be that violent.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're watching these shots on goal from Austin right now. And I'm going to ask Hope about this, but it looks like the sled doesn't block any of the shots in and of itself. But she's blocking every shot as it comes in. There it goes. He did get one past her just then. You can see the spikes on the back of her glove really are an important part of her being able to move. We just came off the ice. Impressive work. Austin, you just tried out the sled. How did that go?

Austin Facer:
It was hard. I mean, like the upper arm strength that you must have to push yourself around and the balance is like pretty, pretty outrageous. But yeah, it's so so impressed by what you can do. It's I mean, learning how to skate is hard enough itself. But learning to skate in a sled is like another level.

Hope Bevelheimer:
And for your mind to be blown, goalies have six-inch blades. Regular players have an inch.

Austin Facer:
No kidding.

Hope Bevelheimer:
So you're on an edge.

Austin Facer:
I can't imagine.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yes.

Austin Facer:
Wow. That's crazy.

Hope Bevelheimer:
So mine are further apart so I don't tip so much. I can control the tip. They're like way smaller than I am.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now you're strapped into the sled, like you said, so you don't fall out of the sled. But I saw you take some of those dives and you just popped right back up. It would be 15 minutes for me to get back up on that.

Hope Bevelheimer:
That's usually a new player. You'll see them because they don't know how to control the sled. It will just slide underneath you. The idea is just to ….. that's the core pop. You just push yourself up and swivel your hips out.

Anthony Godfrey:
So the blades are in place and constructed so you can slide when you want to. But then you can control that you're not going to slide when you don't want to.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, that will never happen for me.

Austin Facer:
OK, so it's pretty impressive.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me one more bit of slang from what's another hockey term that we probably wouldn't know.

Austin Facer:
So many good ones. Usually call like the sweat like the jerseys like a sweater or like the real lingo is like a tarp.

Anthony Godfrey:
A tarp.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah, you got your sweater, your tarp.

Austin Facer:
Yep. But the helmet is a bucket.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. OK.

Austin Facer:
The way you stick handle, I guess like in basketball, maybe you'd call it like a crossover, but you call it like a dangle in hockey. There's a whole language.

Hope Bevelheimer:
And then in a goalie world, I call them all ringers or dingers when I get hit in the head so hard, it sounds like bells are going off in my head. Ringer dinger.

Austin Facer:
The post or the pipes.

Anthony Godfrey:
The pipes.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Yeah. None shall pass in the way of the pipes as long as I'm in there.

Anthony Godfrey:
None shall pass. You just kind of put your stick down like Gandalf. You shall not pass.

Hope Bevelheimer:
None shall pass in the way of the pipes as long as I'm in there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, Hope, you do public speaking as well. Tell us about that aspect of your career.

Hope Bevelheimer:
I do that just because I have gone through a lot of adversity in my life. There's the feet. There's all sorts of things that have happened in my life. But I often feel that individuals get a little down on themselves and life can be hard and life can be troublesome. I just want to inspire and give people hope that they will be able to at least go on. I mean, amputation wasn't the end for me. It was just the beginning. But it could have been the end for me if I chose to have a BDM.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Hope Bevelheimer:
I just like to want to give word out to the community and people that there is hope and there is resilience in this world. And it's not all, you all have a life. We've all had problems in our lives and things have happened. And it can get hard. But as long as you have a great attitude and positive attitude about it, it works great for you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, thank you both for taking the time to talk with me today, even just taking the time to gear up. I know it takes a while to get ready to be on the ice. So thanks for taking your morning with us. And it's inspiring and exciting to talk with both of you.

Hope Bevelheimer:
Well, this is a great opportunity. I just think it's great that we all be able to get out here, get on some ice. You know, I love the ice. You love the ice. Like, it's just a new home. This has been an awesome opportunity and I appreciate the Supercast. I appreciate Austin. So this has been great.

Austin Facer:
Let's do it again. Absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, “Education is the most important thing you will do today.” We'll see you out there. Bye-bye.

Cadence Ivins:
Like getting to know Arnetta as a professional trumpet player was just really inspiring.

Alex:
We were the big finale.

Cadence Ivins:
It was definitely scary knowing that it was going to be such a big performance. Definitely a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that you didn't want to miss.

Beckett Brunson:
Standing in places that some of my favorite performers have been in, it just made me feel inspired.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. They are internationally known recording artists who have made it to the top 10 of Billboard's Hot 100. The American pop band AJR recently performed in Utah, and guess what? They invited the Copper Hills High School marching band to take the stage with them. On this episode of the Supercast, find out what the high school students are saying about their experience and this incredible opportunity of a lifetime. Then listen as Copper Hills High takes the stage for a mic check with members of AJR prior to the big show.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're here at Copper Hills High School talking with the Director of Bands. Introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about what got you here.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
My name is Chris Kuhlemeier. I've been here for just over three years at Copper Hills and loved every moment of it. Over the past couple years, we've been developing our program to get to a higher level of musical excellence and with that, we've just had phenomenal buy-in from our students, families and community, which allowed us to grow to this point and seize such fantastic opportunities like this.

Anthony Godfrey:
I've been over and talked with your students a couple of different times on various occasions. They're impressive and an energetic and enthusiastic bunch. Let's talk about your experience most recently with AJR and being able to perform with them. First of all, how did all of this come about?

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Oh man, it was a pure stroke of luck just a few months ago. I, along with a few other directors, it sounds like in the Salt Lake Valley, got an email from one of the producers for the band AJR.

Anthony Godfrey:
Let's pause right there. AJR, they're no small band playing the Velvet Room, although great bands play the Velvet Room. This is a large-scale operation. They have sold out the Delta Center. They were at USANA. This is a huge venue. So you get contacted by the producer of this well-known, rather quirky, engaging and energetic band.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about your email and what happened after that.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Just a few months ago, we received an email from them just toying with the idea of, "Hey, we're going on tour, this multi-million dollar national tour where we're trying to figure out ways that we want to close the show with a bang." They're notorious for doing some crazy stuff to close out each of their performances. They were toying with the idea and consulted me and others about the logistical challenges faced by bringing out a local marching band at each stop along the way. It was cool planning that out and talking some specifics and logistics with them, but we seem to be the best fit for the job as one of the earlier stops on the tour. They definitely felt that we were a well-organized program enough to be able to put this together with limited experience on their end being so early in the tour. Luckily, I was able to hop on that email very quickly and respond first. It definitely helped our case that we're one of the largest bands this close to the performance venue as well as we're one of very few bands that are as active as we are over the summer. We are constantly rehearsing and performing.

Anthony Godfrey:
You have access to kids over the summer, and you are super close. I've popped over to a USANA concert after work. You know what? I can make that work. I can grab a last-minute ticket and get over there. I love that. You were fast, quick on the draw. You've got a ton going on, and you're close by.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
The perfect storm for the perfect opportunity.

Anthony Godfrey:
How long ago did they lock it in with you and say we want you?

Chris Kuhlemeier:
It was back in early April, if I recall properly, that we received that activation email. At that point, we had no confirmations. It was all speculative until we got a confirmation just a few weeks later. It was no small task. We had a lot of preparations to do logistically before we even told the kids. In fact, we waited well over a month hiding the secret as a staff that we were doing such a big performance with our students just to figure out if we could pull it off. Bringing so many students together, getting them fitted for uniforms far earlier than we're accustomed to, having them learn and memorize music in addition to what they're already working on for their upcoming band classes, their summer parades, or even their fall show. Figuring out from an educational and pedagogical standpoint how we're going to incorporate this while demanding as little time as possible from our students so that they can enjoy some semblance of a summer. After our planning phase, we locked it in with the producers of the band, and we're able to put together a loose schedule. The beautiful thing about this year is our student body has just been so proactive and so eager to succeed, which we haven't seen culturally in this program for a long time. We're really excited to be back on the cusp of student-driven success because that's the nature of the beast. That our students were able to learn and prepare that music all by themselves all summer. Believe it or not, we got by with just a single three-hour rehearsal the day before the performance. Getting together, having the music all memorized across our group, 105 strong, got together for those three hours, polished it up, and then the next day we went out and performed.

Anthony Godfrey:
Over a hundred kids.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Yes, 105 this year, and that was including a few eighth graders that we brought in for our summer marching band from our local feeder schools.

Anthony Godfrey:
What a recruiting tool.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Yes, exactly, and we would not have heard the end of it if we didn't let the class of 2025 join in for one last hurrah.  So some future Grizzlies and some recently graduated Grizzlies got to take part of this huge ordeal, and I'm sure it's one for the books.

Anthony Godfrey:
And of course you didn't say former Grizzlies because once a Grizzly, always a Grizzly. Yes, of course.

Chris Kuhlemeier:Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, what a thrill, and how exciting that you were able to make this happen. So many logistics involved in getting over a hundred kids ready, or even earlier than normal.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
And I love what you said about still giving them a summer, so you took on as much of it as you could before announcing it and giving them that opportunity. Leading up to it, you announce it, you give them the music to memorize. They do that on their own, and you come together the day before for the practice.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Yes. Now, that wasn't ideal, but logistically it made the most sense to give everybody as much of a summer as possible and not start too soon and forget things. We went out on a very, very tedious limb, to say the least, giving them that much time and that little margin of error. But considering the scale of things and the state of the program, we as a staff, while nervous, were relatively comfortable trusting our students to prepare, and they definitely showed up.

Anthony Godfrey:
I love that you had that trust in your students. We can do this. It's tight, but we know we can pull it off.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
And that's show business. We're getting them ready. They're, in this capacity, they're professionals. We were a band for hire, and we got to perform with the pros on a professional stage, and they gave one heck of a professional performance.

Anthony Godfrey:
Let's talk with them. Let's pull them in, and let's hear what that experience was like.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Okay.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us when we come back. We'll hear from the students of Copper Hills High School.

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Sandy Riesgraf:
Hello. I'm Sandy Riesgraf, Director of Communications for Jordan School District, and we want to invite you to connect with us. So many exciting things are happening in your child's school, your neighbor's school, in every school here, every day. Don't miss out on following the fun or simply staying informed when there's important information we need to share. Join us at JordanDistrict.org or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @JordanDistrict. We can't wait to connect.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're talking now with three of the students who were part of the band that performed with AJR. Tell us your name and what year in school you are, and what instrument you play.

Cadence Ivins:
I'm Cadence Ivins. I am going into my junior year of school, and I played flute in the AJR concert.

Beckett Brunson:
I'm Beckett Brunson. I'm a junior, and I play snare.

Alex:
I'm Alex. I played sousaphone, and I'll be a junior.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about what that experience was like. First of all, you received the sheet music. How did it feel to find out that you were going to be able to perform with AJR? Did you know AJR? Did you know about them?

Alex:
Yeah, I knew about them beforehand. It was just a really cool experience to be able to get chosen out of all the high schools that there are in Utah to be able to go and perform with them.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's a big vote of confidence for the program that you were selected. How about you when you found out, how did that feel?

Beckett Brunson:
I was honestly extremely excited. I don't listen to a lot of AJR, but I knew how big they were, and I knew how important going on that big stage as our program would be, and how influential it would be for us to just get out there and get our message out.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's a huge venue. It's enormous.

Beckett Brunson:
It was crazy.

Cadence Ivins:
It was honestly a huge ego boost. There were so many people in our band that were so inspired by AJR beforehand. There were multiple people that I talked to throughout the course of the AJR concert that expressed how insane it was to be there as somebody who started playing trumpet because of AJR.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. So there were some students who started in music because of AJR, and now they get to be part of it. That's a dream come true. That's fantastic. So tell me about, let's go to, first of all, you get the sheet music and you just work independently to be sure that it's memorized, that you're good to go. Did practicing for a performance like this feel different from other practicing that you'd done on your own?

Beckett Brunson:
Yeah, it felt different. Obviously, we weren't completely separated the entire time. We joined together for a few times in our individual sections, and then we came together for one big rehearsal with the whole band. It was definitely hard. It was something difficult because we're not used to this sort of individual practicing, but we definitely overcame the odds and showed them what we're made of.

Alex:
Yeah, it was a lot of, I did, I would look over the music. I tried to actually figure out, because immediately what we played, I tried to figure out what songs we were playing by them and listen to them to kind of get the feel of what it was. And then I kind of brought that to my section when we were doing sectionals to practice together as a group so they could help understand.

Cadence Ivins:
Yeah, there were some ways that it was definitely the same as any other rehearsal. We sat down and we looked at the music and we figured it out and we listened to whatever references we could find online and in our own knowledge. But it was definitely scary knowing that it was going to be such a big performance, definitely a once in a lifetime opportunity that you didn't want to mess up.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, that's a ton of pressure. Tell me what was the day like. Talk me through it, because I always wonder, I'm a huge music fan. I have three concerts I'm going to this week alone. I love going to see live music. So to be part of it, I have gone to dozens of concerts at USANA. It would be hard to count how many I've gone to. And just imagine being on the same stage where Ringo Starr and Radiohead and all these huge people have performed. Must have been incredible. How did it feel that day? Talk me through what the schedule was like and how that felt.

Cadence Ivins:
Yeah, we got here not too early in the morning, but early enough that we had time to prep ourselves. We got to the venue and incredible to be back there just as our group without the pressure of ‘they could be listening right now.’ We got to warm up together as a group behind the scenes and then we got to meet up with Arnetta, their trumpet player, who took us out to the stage and gave us our placements and told us where we were going to be performing and what groups we'd be performing in. And getting to know Arnetta as not just a performer, but as a person, and this person was so incredible and so friendly to this huge group of people that I'm sure it was so hard to keep track of was awesome. She was so powerful for that and getting to see that up close was awesome.

Beckett Brunson:
Waking up in the morning, I was ready. I was excited, but I was also pretty nervous and as it just kept ramping up until we got to the venue and strangely enough when I got to the venue, all my nerves were gone because I was like you said, standing in places that some of my favorite performers have been and it just it made me feel inspired and it pushed all the nerves away. We were practicing with all the lights and everything that we were going to be doing. Arnetta told us what everything was going to be like, where we were going to be going and everything to expect. So I had no nerves until right when we were about to perform and then it just came rushing in and I was so, so nervous.

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm feeling nervous right now just thinking about you guys on that.

Alex:
My experience was, so when we got here in the morning, I was feeling real confident in the performance because from our practice the other day before we were sounding really good and had prepared it well and it was cool being back there to see like where all these other groups have come and performed and I'd never been to USANA before. So being my first time walking into there because I've just seen like passing it on the road. I started getting like a lot nervous when I saw it.

Anthony Godfrey:
It looks huge to you, I’ll bet.

Alex:
Really big. But throughout the day just started getting more calm and I thought about it like this is just really genuinely cool experience that we get to have.

Anthony Godfrey:
And how long was the performance itself?

Beckett Brunson:
Our portion of the performance was only about three and a half minutes. We were the big finale that they teased and then big surprise at the end. AJR set was about an hour and a half long and naturally all of our band students are huge fans of the group, despite some of our staff members not really knowing who they were. They find their niche audience. But our group actually only got to see about one or two of their songs at the beginning before we had to go backstage, get changed into our uniforms and on deck for the performance. So the majority of us witnessing their performance was just from what we heard backstage, which was a really cool experience in and of itself.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Beckett Brunson:
And you know about an hour and a half of just waiting and waiting and waiting each second feeling longer than the last as we gear up for this big performance at the end. And then just going out with a bang for the last three and a half minutes was truly breathtaking.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's what an incredible experience. Did you get stickers like “working crew” or “backstage” or —

Beckett Brunson:
We got wristbands.

Anthony Godfrey:
Let me go anywhere I want. Oh wristband. OK. We had the wristband. If I had a wristband like that, I'd just be walking around with my fist in the air like “check me out. I got a wristband. Look at me.” What was your favorite part of the experience?

Cadence Ivins:
My favorite part of the experience was getting to see what it was like to be a real performer, like getting to know Arnetta as a professional trumpet player was just really inspiring. As somebody who would like to pursue music at some point in the future, it was really great to stand there and see what it was like as somebody who does this every day of their lives.

Beckett Brunson:
It was great to see how as a group we could come together and make an absolutely amazing show that everybody's excited to see and work together as a group instead of being that individual person like when we were practicing. We didn't have very many group rehearsals, but we still managed to sound together like a group. And it really was awesome.

Alex:
I really liked it being able to be able to play again with a lot of the seniors who had graduated the year before. We allowed them to come back and being able to experience playing like one last time with all my friends that I had been able to build a relationship and bond with over the years. It was a great like last time to play with someone experience.

Anthony Godfrey:
I heard about this and I was on vacation and unable to go. It was killing me. And I got a text from someone who was at the show, “They sound incredible. Did you know Copper Hills is here?” “Yes, I know. And I know I'm not there. And it's killing me.” But everyone was super impressed with the performance. And I hope you guys are feeling great about it because everyone else in the audience did.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me a little bit about being Director of Bands. I think it's difficult for anyone who isn't directly involved to understand the scope of work you do as a band director.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Well, indeed at Copper Hills, we have quite the depth and breadth of ensemble opportunities here. I myself oversee seven class periods of music-based ensembles. We have two percussion ensembles here that meet during the day at Copper Hills, as well as three concert bands and two curricular jazz bands. On top of that, after school, of course, we have our pep band, which can be seen and heard at football games, basketball games, assemblies and more. And of course, our fantastic marching band, which doubles and rolls as a parade band all throughout the summer and then as our show band all throughout the fall. In addition to that, I work closely with our two middle school feeders as their Director of Jazz Bands before and after school. We have a lot of fun with that, but quite the wide scope of musical opportunities here in the instrumental world. And that's just getting started with band.

Anthony Godfrey:
Is there any point at which there are five consecutive days in the calendar year where nothing is going on with any band?

Chris Kuhlemeier:
I'd like to say the week between Christmas and New Year. We kind of have to keep free, but beyond that at Copper Hills, we are busy every week of the year.

Anthony Godfrey:
And if you wanted to play a basketball game during that time, you probably could.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Correct. Yep. Yep. We make it happen.

Anthony Godfrey:
There's always something going on, which just means a lot of work for you and other staff members, but also a ton of opportunities for students and great chances to be a part of something.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
And in some cases, to show their talents and in other cases, to learn something they've never tried before.

Chris Kuhlemeier:
Absolutely. We have quite the diverse student body, from students who have been playing their instruments since they came of age to be in school. Or others who are just trying to learn something new while they're here in high school. We have educational opportunities for these students to flourish at a musical capacity. It's really cool seeing the different levels of engagement and styles from student to student all coming together regardless of individual context to really make something cool with all of their friends and making more along the way. Next week, we're actually headed for five days, four nights down to Wasatch Academy boarding school in Mount Pleasant with 82 of our kids, where they're going to undergo multiple team building activities and such as we put together our field show and such. So it's kind of a summer camp paired with band camp galore where we kind of deal with each other for five days straight. It's a really cool opportunity for these kids to get together and just flourish socially well beyond the craft, but also integrating it and making it even more of a part of their lives by separating themselves from any distractions and really getting into it. We're going to carry that momentum all year long.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, thank you very much for talking with me and for representing Copper Hills and Jordan School District so well and congratulations on the job. Very well done.

Cadence Ivins:
Thank you.

Alex:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, “Education is the most important thing you'll do today!” We'll see you out there.

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Ms. Crane:
It brings it to life for the students. And it doesn't matter what they see here, they go away with an appreciation of what the pioneers went through.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you're just steering from behind right now. These are some big ruts you're dealing with.

Student:
Is this what they have to do, the whole thousand miles?

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, on the bad patches, I suspect it was.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. As thousands of Utahns enjoy parades, rodeos, fireworks, and other festivities to celebrate Pioneer Day, it's time to pack up and take a field trip for a hands-on lesson in history for some Jordan School District Elementary School students. On this episode of the Supercast, we follow teachers and their students to This Is The Place Heritage Park, where the lives and times of Utah's early settlers come alive. It is a live history lesson you won't want to miss.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're talking with Ms. Crane at This Is The Place Heritage Park. You have a bunch of students here today, tell us about that.

Ms. Crane:
They're so excited we've been talking about pioneers and finally they get to finally experience the stuff that we've been talking about. The hand carts and school, they're going to be able to go to a pioneer school and see what it was like.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Oh wow.

Ms. Crane:
And we get to ride the train, which is exciting for them, and go to the saddle shop, so just different things that the pioneers experienced. These guys get to see and do, and some of them will never make it up here, so this is a fun field trip for them to experience that.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, I have to admit, I've never been to this park myself, so I'm glad that you got me here as well.

Ms. Crane:
Yay.

Anthony Godfrey:
And this makes the learning that you've been doing in class very real. You've been doing this for a number of years. Tell me about the impact that this field trip has on students.

Ms. Crane:
It brings it to life for the students. And it doesn't matter what they see here. They go away with an appreciation of what the pioneers went through and a knowledge of stuff that we've been talking about, hands-on experience. So it brings you up to the kids.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, today this is the place because it's beautiful. It's the end of May. We're going to be playing this in July, or posting it in July, but the foothills are bright green. It looks beautiful up here. This is a great way to spend an afternoon in May with your fourth graders. So I see that they're already lined up on some of the hand carts over there, some students are. Tell me about some of the experiences they have while they're here.

Ms. Crane:
They'll get to pull the hand carts, push. At one point they'll be pushing and then they'll switch and they'll be pulling the hand cart. So they see how hard it was going, because they make it really rocky and hilly out there for them. So they experience that. When they go to the school, they will learn that they used to have to line up boys' line and the girls' line. And they had to curtsy and bow to the teacher.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, okay.

Ms. Crane:
So then they-

Anthony Godfrey:
Did you put curtsying and bowing to the teacher into your regular rotation?

Ms. Crane:
I tried that. They just laugh at me. And then they learn the Deseret alphabet of what the pioneer children were learning.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yes, the Deseret alphabet.

Ms. Crane:
Way back then. And then today we go to the saddle shop. I haven't been to the saddle shop for a while. And so they'll learn how they used to do the saddles, what kind of materials that they need, where they get their materials. So that's kind of interesting.

Anthony Godfrey:
I grew up in Indiana, not Utah, so I did not get to go to any of these places. I also didn't have a Utah history class, so it's good to gain a little extra knowledge here today about Utah history. How many years have you been bringing students up here, and has it changed over time?

Ms. Crane:
I've been doing this about 30 years.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow.

Ms. Crane:
And it's changed a lot. It's very different than it used to be. They've brought in more buildings. They've refined the experience a little better. So the kids get to ride on the train, which is a new thing.

Anthony Godfrey:
Do the kids get pretty excited like they have to? They know it's coming. They're in third grade, and they know next year we get to go to This Is The Place Heritage Park.

Ms. Crane:
They're excited. One year, a couple of years ago, the water main broke the day that we were coming up, and it just devastated the fourth graders, cuz we didn't get to come. Cuz they had big problems up here that day, and I was really sad.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's too bad.

Ms. Crane:
Cuz we've been waiting for the whole year.

Anthony Godfrey:
They've been looking forward to it, okay.

Ms. Crane:
Yes, it has changed a lot. They've really made it more enjoyable. It was always enjoyable, but they just honed in and made it so much fun.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, it's really engaging even just walking in here. There was a lot to see, a lot that I hated to pass up as I caught up with you guys.

Ms. Crane:
One of the nice things about bringing them here is a lot of times the kids will bring their parents back in the summer to see some of the stuff that they weren't able to see before. So they'll get to come up here and experience with their families.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Ms. Crane:
That's part of them coming up here and experiencing that.

Anthony Godfrey:
I love that involvement.

Ms. Crane:
And the fun thing about doing Utah history with the kids in fourth grade is they have more of an appreciation when they hit seventh grade.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Ms. Crane:
And really dig into it more than I get a chance to do that now.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Ms. Crane:
So.

Anthony Godfrey:
Is Utah history one of your favorite things to teach?

Ms. Crane:
Yes, I love teaching Utah history. I just don't have enough time to get everything in that I want to get in.

Anthony Godfrey:
What are some of your favorite things to teach?

Ms. Crane:
The mountain men.

Anthony Godfrey:
I saw there's an event in June with the mountain men up here.

Ms. Crane:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell us more about that.

Ms. Crane:
One of our teachers just went to an event last weekend, Memorial weekend in Ogden. I'd never heard about it, but they have this big rendezvous in Ogden. And she went up to the rendezvous and was able to get some stuff to share with the kids.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Ms. Crane:
So that was kind of exciting. I loved when the pioneers came across from Nauvoo and the trek that they took. I like to put them in wagons. And then they draw cards every day to see what kind of conditions they're experiencing that day. They might have lost all their water. They might have had an animal die. It was great weather they get to go 15 miles ahead. So they're trying to reach Salt Lake.

Anthony Godfrey:
So that random factor gets thrown into the mix.

Ms. Crane:
Yes. So that's kind of a fun thing to do with them is have them experience that.

Anthony Godfrey:
Very cool. That's great. Well, there's nothing like being right here in the setting that can really provide that hands-on experience. There's a lot of participation and a lot of attention being paid here. They're into it.

Ms. Crane:
Yeah, some of them have never been here and this is exciting for them.

Anthony Godfrey:
There's the train in the background. There they go.

Ms. Crane:
One of our groups.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. So, speaking of other groups, you were on the podcast earlier because one of your former students is teaching. But there are others in the District that you taught who are now teachers.

Ms. Crane:
Yes, I taught Emily Crane. She's at Elk Meadows. And Kristen Clegg. I don't know exactly what school she's at right now, but they're former students of mine.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Ms. Crane:
I actually taught with Emily at Elk Meadows.

Anthony Godfrey:
Is Emily a relation?

Ms. Crane:
Nope, no relation.

Anthony Godfrey:
No relation?

Ms. Crane:
No relation to me. Except a year of teaching. I had Emily when I taught a third fourth split at Riverton Elementary. And I taught Kristen Riverton Elementary also. So it's nice to see some of my former students come on to be. They're amazing teachers.

Anthony Godfrey:
I bet they are. They had a good start. You start learning by watching your own teachers.

Ms. Crane:
They're amazing.

Anthony Godfrey:
Good. Well, that's awesome. Well, thank you for providing this experience for students. It's really fun for them to be up here and it's really fun for me to be up here. So, thank you.

Ms. Crane:
Yeah, we got you out of the office.

Anthony Godfrey:
You got me out of the office. That's right. That's one of the beautiful things about the Supercast. I do get to step out of the office.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us when we come back more with the students visiting This Is The Place Heritage Park.

Male Voice:
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Anthony Godfrey:
We're following the handcarts along the course that was set up. I think to concentrate some of the more difficult parts of the trail, they had to go up and down hills that were very close to each other. So, they were racing down the hill and then struggling to get up on the other end. And then there are boards, railroad ties it looks like, but across the trail in an alternating pattern to try to make it tough and they succeeded. This was, this is difficult, but there's enthusiasm because it's very short. It's difficult, but it's short and water bottles are at the ready. So, I think everyone's gonna be all right. How's it feeling guys?

Student 1:
Hurts.

Student 2:
Not for me because mainly if you just let . . . We're only doing one thing and that one thing is just stopping We don't have to worry. Let the people in front do it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. So you're just steering from behind right now.

Student 2:
Just helping steer and brake.

Anthony Godfrey:
These are some big ruts you're dealing with.

Student 1:
Is this what they have to do, the whole thousand miles?

Anthony Godfrey:
Well on the bad patches I suspect it was.

Student 2:
Water bottle.

Student 1:
There you go.

Anthony Godfrey:
Water down, water down.

Student 1:
That was fun. Let's do it again.

Anthony Godfrey:
You enjoyed that, huh?

Student 2:
I enjoyed it because mainly because when I was— Yeah, we're slow. When we needed to slow, I didn't have to worry because my feet— I just go like this.

Student 1:
Yeah.

Student 2:
Four times I've actually almost went under.

Anthony Godfrey:
All right, you gotta back it into a parking spot now.

Student 2:
Okay.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're talking with two of the fourth graders from Rosamond who are visiting today. Tell us a little bit about your experience so far.

Student 1:
We did a hand car pulling and it was fun. We had to go through rocks and push and pull.

Student 2:
I liked it because it was full of adrenaline because when we went down that, when we went down the bump, we went all the way through and it was so fast. Me and Briggs had to stop as soon as possible because if we didn't, we would have just went, "Meow," right down the hill.

Anthony Godfrey:
What did you like most like learning about Utah history in Ms. Crane's class?

Student:
She let us work on a back page on the newspaper. So it was just fun because it was a word search and it was just fun because it just was activity and it taught us a lot.

Student:
I love learning about the different people that survived in Utah and what they did to survive and it's just fun learning every week.

Anthony Godfrey:
I really feel like I'm in the time period right now because we've got four pioneers singing along with a guitar out there in the distance. We're going to go into the leather shop here. Let's take a look.

Presenter in Leather Shop:
Monkey. Monkey, right. So you notice how I didn't say no to any of those animals, right? Because any animal that has skin can be turned into lettuce. So the first thing is, do you think I just walk up to a cow and I say, "Hey, give me all your leather." No? No? Okay. So that brings me to the first job. In getting leather, the first job would be a hunter, a trapper, a farmer, or maybe you came upon a dead animal, right? And then you need somebody to get the skin off and that person is called a felmonger. A felmonger is a compound word. Fel means it's an old time word for skin and monger is an old time word for seller.

Anthony Godfrey:
So what interested you in there with the leather work they described?

Student 2:
There was a lot of different animals and the color of the skin didn't always look like what the animal would look like and that interested me.

Student 1:
There was lots of different varieties and it was hard to guess them because it's hard to tell which animal came from, which fur came from which. A moose looks like it came from something else, definitely not a moose.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're kind of distant from the things that we use and how they're created. I don't always know where my food comes from or where the things I use every day come from so it's interesting to see what that was like. I have loved being here with you today and I've learned a lot. Tell us one thing that you love about Utah history.

Student 1:
I love learning how where we live used to be and how they, pioneers had to live and how it's changed over a thousand years.

Student 2:
I like learning about all the ways they lived and all the music and food and how they prepared stuff and how they traveled to just learn about anything.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, it's been a great day with you. Thank you very much for taking time to talk with me and have a great remainder of the school year and tell everyone happy 24th of July.

Student 2:
Thank you.

Students:
Happy 24th of July.

Anthony Godfrey:
All right, thanks guys. Have a great day.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, “Education is the most important thing you will do today.” We'll see you out there.

Talon Hatch:
Even some of these younger kiddos as young as third grade, they're already building websites with HTML.

Matt Linford:
It creates this environment where tools like Skill Struck, tools like Adobe, can all come into one course of a kid and the kid can engage with these various content and curricular resources in one space.

Casey Nuttall:
Getting them in as early as possible on some of these tools to prepare them for the future.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. They are giving every student an opportunity to learn at higher levels in ways many never imagined. On this episode of the Supercast, we talk with companies igniting curiosity in the classroom with the use of technology; technology which is bringing better education opportunities for students, enhancing what teachers teach, and impacting education in some incredible ways.

Anthony Godfrey:
We're talking with Jared Covili, the grand poohbah, the grand marshal of UCET, but also the administrator over Digital Teaching and Learning in Jordan School District. It is always a great way to mark this time of year by coming to talk with you at UCET, Jared.

Jared Covili:
It's the end of winter. We're moving into spring, so what better time to talk Ed Tech?

Anthony Godfrey:
You can smell hope in the air. There's sunshine out there. It's a beautiful day.

Jared Covili:
It could be power cords and things.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's right. We're going to have three guests on that are partners with Jordan School District. Talk with us about those three.

Jared Covili:
Yeah, so today you're going to be listening to three different partners that work with us in the Ed Tech department. You've got Skill Struck, who represents a group that works primarily with our K-6 computer science group. Each of our elementaries has a computer science leader that works with the kids, helping them integrate not only computer science projects, but also computational thinking. So, Talon Hatch will be here from Skill Struck with us. And then we've got Casey Nuttall from Instructure, and our District is kind of an Instructure district. We use a lot of different products from them, but primarily most of you in the audience will know them as Canvas. So that's our learning management system that we use to connect students to their homework and to turn in assignments and do assessments. For us on the back end, it is the way that we do a lot of our grading and a lot of our assessment of students and what they're learning. So that's Instructure. And then our third partner that we're going to hear from today is Matt Linford from Adobe. Probably a lot of you have driven past the Adobe office on I-15 but wondered kind of what's going on up there. Well, they're a great educational partner of ours, and they provided all of their software to all of our students and teachers from K through 12. So that's a big part of what we do. And they're a great partner that we work with, not only at UCET, but throughout the year.

Anthony Godfrey:
Again, thank you for making this opportunity available to so many and for being the mascot mayor, grand poohbah, and grand marshal of UCET. Long may you reign.

Anthony Godfrey:
So, let's start by talking with each of you. Just introduce yourself. Tell us who the company you're working with and generally your connection with education.

Matt Linford:
So, my name is Matt Linford. I'm with Adobe and I am actually the engagement manager that covers the state of Utah including a lot of what we do within the Create Utah program. So my role is just to really support districts and make sure that they have what they need.

Casey Nuttall:
Yep, and then I'm Casey Nuttall. I'm with Instructure. I'm a regional sales director for Instructure. So kind of like Matt, I work with the state of Utah in every LEA in Utah on how they utilize Instructure platform tools to engage student learning, to increase student outcomes, and really to be a tool to use to facilitate the education for Jordan School District.

Talon Hatch:
And I'm Talon Hatch. I'm part of Skill Struck, a Utah-based company. We work with the school district on computer science education. So, we work particularly with a focus on the elementary schools and how they're utilizing computer science to enhance learning and increase computational thinking for all your students. So, we really enjoy that and I'm just a regional partnership. I work with all the different partners throughout the state of Utah and helping districts do what Jordan's doing so well.

Anthony Godfrey:
For it for those parents who are listening, most of you probably did not benefit from the work of these three folks because in the last ten years there's been a lot of progress, a lot of movement forward, and education changes rapidly in the right direction, giving more personalized learning opportunities for students and different levels of support for teachers. I mean it's really exciting the level of creativity that's possible because of the support that your three companies give us. So let's talk about Skill Struck's connection with computer science at the elementary level, which for some people just sounds kind of crazy that we start that early. But that's exactly when we ought to be starting. Talk to us about what that looks like.

Talon Hatch:
Yeah, yeah, it's a great question. So, we love working with the District on that part. The larger part of what it stemmed from is about four and a half, five years ago, the state created the Utah Computer Science Master Plan. Obviously, with the growth of tech in our state and the legislation, the USBE came together and said, "Hey, we need to support our schools in making sure that every kid K through 12 is getting access to high-quality computer science curriculum, resources, and professional development for teachers." And so they actually created a grant program where districts could collaborate with other partners like Skill Struck and throughout the state in creating a plan of “this is what computer science is going to look like in our district,” to make sure that every kid has access. So, we really love working with Jared and Tracy in your district and seeing what does that vertical alignment look like at each school, across each grade level, so you can ensure that even as long as, like you said, as kindergarteners, they're engaging with the standards from the state and really getting that technology foundation that is so critical in the digital world that we live in.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's a very hands-on, very concrete STEM education from a very young age and really it comes down to problem-solving.

Talon Hatch:
Exactly.

Anthony Godfrey:
And I also think there's customer service and empathy built into that because you are programming for an end user, and if you can't put yourself in their place, you aren't going to be an effective programmer.

Talon Hatch:
Exactly, and the beauty of what the District's doing is throughout this curriculum is they're doing computer science with computational thinking, those problem-solving skills, the basics of coding. But beyond that digital literacy, digital citizenship, keeping all within one platform so these students can really be strong stewards of technology regardless of what path that they end up taking. The nice part is they're getting a really strong foundation in the elementary already where we work with a number of the junior highs in the District as well, and the teachers are coming to us and saying, “hey, these kids are knowing way more than they did a few years ago,” and they're having to level up their game. That was the whole plan of the master plan is we would need to level up what we were doing with technology in the classroom.

Anthony Godfrey:
Kids are pretty amazing and teachers are amazing and when you put great tools in front of them, you really can be blown away by the results.

Talon Hatch:
Oh, I mean I was just talking with one of your teachers. A shout out to Colleen Pepper over at Falcon Ridge. She's one of the teachers, the STEM teachers, that takes and teaches Skill Struck weekly across all grade levels of the school. So she's seen every class, every student, are coming to her once a week for about, you know, 45-50 minutes. She was just sharing with me even some of these younger kiddos as young as third grade, they're already building websites with HTML. They're already learning text-based coding with JavaScript. A lot of teachers are always saying, “those third graders can't do it that young,” and they're always shocked when they start excelling and they go fast and go way beyond what we give them credit for. It's exciting.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, thanks for your support and making that possible. Stay with us. When we come back, we’ll talk with Instructure and Adobe about how they are impacting the student and teacher experience in Jordan School District.

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Anthony Godfrey:
Let's talk with you about Instructure, Casey.

Casey Nuttall:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Most people would not think, “Oh, Instructure, I know what they do.” Of course not. So let's talk about that.

Casey Nuttall:
Yeah, I mean I'll piggyback off of the conversation with Talon. Instructure was a catalyst with their product Canvas, right, that helped kind of bring technology of various forms and modes into one place and allow that facilitation of the curriculum and instruction be handled in one place via technology. I'm sitting here listening to Talon and I'm just thinking of my own experience of even computer science courses when, and this is gonna date me, but I remember my school was fortunate enough we had computers. Our computer was in the lab and our computer time was spent on typing the “quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.” That was it and then  . . .

Anthony Godfrey:
I do remember that fox.

Casey Nuttall:
Yeah, there's that. There is that and Oregon Trail and that was our technology was playing that game and typing that, and then you go back to your classroom. So now I've got kids in the system and I get to see all the exposure that they have and all the experiences they get to have because of the technology and all the skills that they're acquiring because of that. It's just insane. That's why it's so cool to be part of this experience, being a vendor and being with Instructure because of our product Canvas. That's our flagship product that everybody knows us by. It creates this environment where tools like Skill Struck, tools like Adobe, can all come into one course and the kid can engage with these various content and curricular resources in one space instead of being taken all over the place.

Anthony Godfrey:
Right.

Casey Nuttall:
But it fits in a mode that's going to really help increase student engagement but increase student outcomes by the way that they're engaging with this content curriculum, and increase their skills overall to be able to have more advanced skills and more proficiency in ways that, unfortunately, our generation didn't have those abilities to have there. So yeah, it's really cool. So, with our partnership with Jordan, we've been fortunate enough to have a multifaceted kind of pronged approach with Jordan. It is the District that uses quite a few of our tools. They use Canvas as that curriculum resource tool as an extension to the classroom to be able to have access 24/7 to all the content curriculum that's being deployed. They also have a product called MasteryConnect which is a standards-based proficiency-based assessment tool to help gauge where kids are mastering certain skills.

Anthony Godfrey:
We've been part of MasteryConnect for a long time.

Casey Nuttall:
From the get-go.

Anthony Godfrey:
It's like having a Netflix subscription when they have to send physical DVDs. I mean, we've been around for a while.

Casey Nuttall:
That's more true than most people probably think because it used to be a physical test and then you would have to just bubble sheet and scan it. Now it's all online. You've got all sorts of items, so it's crazy to see how technology is advanced. Like I said, being a parent now of kids that get to go in and use all these types of tools and have exposure to it makes me feel like I got ripped off.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, I think everyone listening to the podcast is familiar with Canvas. It's amazing that the classroom is available 24/7.

Casey Nuttall:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Those resources are there and what I like to tell people, it's an added layer of transparency for sure. Parents who are interested in knowing, “hey, I wonder what my child is learning in this particular class,” it's a chance for them to engage with that but also to reinforce it. So I view it as a tool to connect with families, to connect with parents, to reinforce learning. Because of Canvas, a parent can watch the video and say, “Well, okay, now I'm up to speed. I'm gonna help you with this assignment.” Yeah, it's amazing and for us to have access to Canvas before the pandemic, for it all ready to be up and running in Utah throughout the state, I think we were miles ahead. Miles and miles.

Casey Nuttall:
You have no idea.

Anthony Godfrey:
You know, one of the first questions we ask when we're looking at another vendor or another opportunity is, “How well does it connect to Canvas? How does it link to Canvas?”

Casey Nuttall:
We love that because you keep that method.

Anthony Godfrey:
That is our methodology because it we want it to be one-stop shopping where parents can really get access to everything they need to stay connected to their student and to their learning.

Casey Nuttall:
But also promote the best of breed, right? Like that's something I want to convey to you. People know is Intructure, we have tools like the assessment tool MasterConnect, right? That's one tool of a bevy of assessment tools. If it's not the right fit for the District, we want to be able to help facilitate “what is the best tool for your learners?” So, like if Adobe is the best tool for a creative aspect, let's allow Adobe to come in. If Skill Stuck is the best for computer science let's allow those to come in and live. Like it is really truly promoting an openness and a best of breed approach. Unlike others where it's like, “nope, we're gonna lock you into our ecosystem and if you want to try and use something else, we're gonna make it more difficult.” Why? We need to all be in it for the learner. That's what I love about the vendor partnerships we have is we know, we recognize Skill Struck has a unique tool offering. Adobe has a really unique offering in the marketplace. Why would we ever prohibit our students from having access to those if it's gonna be the best fit for them?

Anthony Godfrey:
Exactly, and it gives us access to the widest range of right best tools connecting to that foundational Canvas connection. And speaking of PDFs, let's talk about Adobe.

Matt Linford:
The King of the PDF.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's right, we all know your logo better than anybody else's. I think that's fair to say. I know that you always provide the leadership opportunity, that leadership training for our principals, but so much more support in Jordan District. Talk about what Adobe offers. I think people would be surprised at the range of services that are provided to the District.

Matt Linford:
Yeah, our offering is definitely morphed and changed over the last few years a lot with what Utah has been doing over the last few years with these larger partnerships, with people like Skill Struck and Instructure. It's been an honor for a lot of the Adobe folks, and if anyone's been here in Utah, you know you drive along I-15 you see our building down there in Lehi. I mean, we're kind of a mainstay here even though we're based out of California. We have a lot of folks that are involved in this Utah community. We feel it, we want to be a part of it, and so our partnership has definitely evolved from just “hey, we offer things like Photoshop, illustrator, PDFs,” that type of stuff. What most people know us for is the evolving kind of scope of Adobe Express which more and more people are becoming aware of over time. We put a lot of effort in making sure that parents and the communities are aware of what Adobe Express is and does, and how that connects to the broader scope of K-12. That has been an honor and actually just a privilege to see that grow with the partnership. For example, specifically with Jordan and other districts here in the state, but Jordan specifically, we've done a lot of work making sure that there's professional development made available at, of course, no cost for any of the teachers that want to figure out, “well, listen, I you know Adobe is too hard. I use PDFs occasionally but I don't really see how Photoshop's gonna have anything to do with an elementary kid or elementary student.” Where we come in, we say. “No, there's Adobe Express that actually provides full scope of creativity and digital literacy advancement for those kids. Getting them in earlier, as Skill Stuck was kind of mentioning there, getting them in as early as possible on some of these tools prepare them for the future.

Anthony Godfrey:
Creativity, it's bringing creativity to every subject. When you bring creativity, you bring engagement. So really what you're doing is you're connecting with students, teaching them essential skills that you're also teaching the adults in our District now; but our students are getting an earlier start on that, and I just love that. The professional development support has really been key. Our digital learning team has really appreciated that. Give me a couple of examples of the sorts of things that Adobe Express can do for a classroom.

Matt Linford:
Yeah, it's the range has grown substantially. It used to be you could create maybe a video or do a little graphic here or there. It's broadened out quite a bit. Our video technology is really fantastic that can work on a Chromebook. For example, web-based stuff most of us are known for like Premiere Pro, which is an industry standard that is used in Hollywood all the time in that type of area. But for a Chromebook and being able to be able to do like, for example, animate your voice which has become such a big part for those younger students, where they can pick a character, just record their voice in a very simplistic and easy way, and they can tell their story. Again, that goes back to that idea of creativity in every aspect that you can possibly imagine, allowing that student to tell their story in multiple ways, to engage them more by having a video tool like that. We also go all the way into the PDF space, like we talked about, where we have actual really easy drag-and-drop PDF-kind of editing capabilities with an Express that work in conjunction with something like Acrobat. So, it can go into those spaces and then, of course, we have tons of graphic design tools. We also have our new Adobe Podcast that is being used heavily here in the state now, so tools like we're on right now, a podcast like with this. It's meeting people where they're at in a web-based format so you don't need to have like, for example, here we're using Adobe Audition which is a really great tool. Shout out to the fact that we're using that right now because it's an awesome tool but that's not going to be user-friendly for a teacher trying to create a new kind of audio recording technology within, say for example, middle schools or even late elementary. Adobe Podcast is open the door that it makes it super simplistic to do that now.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's such an important aspect of what you're doing. It's Adobe, it's Adobe Express. It's making it accessible so that once students and teachers get connected to it, then they can explore beyond that. But it's making that point of entry so much easier to get to by lowering the wall and lowering the concerns about, “oh, this is kind of beyond my range.”

Matt Linford:
The Express stuff is all free to everyone in the state of Utah. This is coming from our kind of high-ups within our company to make sure that we just want as many creators out there in the world as possible. So by doing it this way and working within the current systems that are out there, we're really trying to again meet those teachers where they're at.

Anthony Godfrey:
Fantastic! Well, you're all three incredible partners that have helped us really propel education. Well, thanks everyone, and good luck at the conference.

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Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, “Education is the most important thing you will do today!” We'll see you out there.

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