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Paul Bergera:
So Zonar is a way for us to, it's a GPS tracking system and so Zonar allows us to monitor our buses.

Anthony Godfrey:
We decide where you want the notice. So okay it's going to take this much time for my child to walk to the bus stop. So I'm going to set it so that I know exactly when the bus is close enough that we need to head to the bus stop.

Paul Bergera:
That's correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. You can follow the progress of your child's Jordan District School bus for pickup and drop off with an optional app that is easy to use and brings parents peace of mind.

On this episode of the Supercast, we hear all about Zonar MyView. It's an app that allows parents to check on their own child's school bus location and the estimated time of arrival at the bus stop each day. Thousands are already using the app. Could it be useful for you as well? Listen and find out.

We're here at the Transportation Department with three of our transportation experts to talk about Zonar. Introduce yourselves and then let's talk a little bit about this great app for parents.

Paul Bergera:
Thank you, Superintendent. I'm Paul Bergera, the Director of Transportation.

Debbie McKinlay:
I'm Debbie McKinlay. I work with the Zonar app.

Mary Anne Balfour:
And I'm Mary Anne Balfour. I work in dispatch.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me a little bit about what Zonar is. So for parents listening who may not be familiar, what does the Zonar app do for families?

Paul Bergera:
So Zonar is a way for us to– it's a GPS tracking system. And so Zonar allows us to monitor our buses. It tells us when a door is open, how fast it's going, how long it stopped at a stop. The MyView parent app is a component of Zonar and that's really a tool for parents and schools to be able to use to simply be able to track their bus. Know when it's going to be coming into a certain zone that the parents will set up. Just a really good tool for parents and schools to have in order to track school buses.

Anthony Godfrey:
So it's an easy tool to find out where your child's bus is in real time.

Paul Bergera:
Correct. Absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
So tell us how do they get the app. Their favorite app store, they look for Zonar.

Paul Bergera:
Yes. They look for the Zonar MyView app. And if they would like step-by-step instructions, there's only four steps. From downloading the app to the completion of getting signed up for the MyView app.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell us about what they need to do.

Paul Bergera:
So the first thing they would want to do is download the Zonar MyView app from the Apple app store or Google Play. They would enter the school access code, which they can find online or on a handout that their bus driver can give them. They enter their child's unique student ID, which is their student ID they use in Skyward. And then they create alert zones around drop-off and pickup points. It's really that simple.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you decide where you want the notice. So, okay, it's going to take this much time for my child to walk to the bus stop. So I'm going to set it so that I know exactly when the bus is close enough that we need to head to the bus stop.

Paul Bergera:
That's correct. Yeah, absolutely. And a lot of people set it up with, you know, an alert that's maybe seven minutes. Brush your teeth. An alert that's three minute, grab your backpack.

So people can have fun with it and play around to determine where those zones are. They establish their own zones and what kind of an alert kind of comes at them.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, this comes in handy on a regular day, but it particularly comes in handy on a day where we might have a little bit of weather, not enough weather to delay or to close school, but really enough weather that maybe the buses are running a little bit behind.

Paul Bergera:
Absolutely. A day kind of like maybe today, a little rain, a little wet. It also, as the days become darker, it just gives parents that sense of comfort that their students aren't necessarily waiting at a bus stop longer than they need to.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. So if it's dark or it's rainy, then if it's a dark and stormy day, then you can make sure that your child isn't at the bus stop earlier than they need to be.

Paul Bergera:
That's correct. That's correct. And really, like I mentioned earlier, there is all of our drivers have access to a to a handout that can talk to parents about the instructions on downloading the app and making it work. Then on our district website, we also have that available.

Anthony Godfrey:
Where do they go on the website to find that unique number that they need to enter in?

Paul Bergera:
They can just go on the website in the search engine, just type in Zonar MyView parent app, and it will pop right up and give them instructions on what they need to do.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, who do they call if they need help? Debbie, is that you? The person that they contact if they need assistance?

Debbie McKinlay:
Yes. Actually, the easiest way to do it is when they're using the parent app, they go into the support tab where they set up the app. It has a support tab and that all those emails come directly to me. So I get all of the background information. If they say I'm not able to find my student or I can't track the bus, I search in the background by their email. So I would be asked if they called me, I'd need their email anyway. It's really better to send me the email. Click on the support tab, tell me what's wrong. I will search for it and I'll correspond that way. And it works out really good. Otherwise, they can call me for sure and dispatch would forward the call to me.

Anthony Godfrey:
What's the phone number that they call if they have a question?

Debbie McKinlay:
It's 801-567-8841.

Anthony Godfrey:
And they just have a question, ask for Debbie. I have a question on the Zonar family app.

Debbie McKinlay:
Correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, that's awesome. So you've also, Mary Anne, worked with parents over the years. How has having Zonar impacted those interactions?

Mary Anne Balfour;
So the interactions with parents, it helps those calls. “Where's my bus? Is it running late?” Those don't have to come into dispatch. So then we have the ability to focus on, do we need other routes covered? Other things that might be important as well that needs our one-on-one attention rather than looking up bus numbers continually on where's my bus?

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, which we understand that parents want to have that information. This is the easiest way to get it quickly because it may be tough to reach someone on a difficult morning. Things are difficult for everyone. How many buses are we running at any given time, Paul?

Paul Bergera:
For our route buses, about 185 buses.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's 185 buses serving three different schools each in all likelihood.

Paul Bergera:
Correct. Yep.

Anthony Godfrey:
So there's a lot going on and having the Zonar parent app means that you can get that information a lot more quickly.

Mary Ann Balfour:
You can. We've actually seen teachers who go out and meet buses, maybe with our special education, utilizing the Zonar app so that they know when the buses are coming to the school. So that they can go out and meet those buses when they get there and get the children in quickly and eliminate the wait time on that application as well.

Anthony Godfrey:
So there's a great application for schools as well to be able to use this and just be aware of when buses are coming and especially Kauri Sue Hamilton School. I know when I first walked in we talked about that with 34 buses. This comes in very handy I'm sure for them as they're trying to manage helping students into the building and knowing exactly when those buses are arriving because there are a lot of factors that can impact that schedule.

Paul Bergera:
Absolutely. It's a terrific tool for that application and Mary Ann I'm going to give her a lot of credit. She took the time to create zones around Kauri Sue Hamilton so she may have a north, south, and east and a west zone that alerts those teachers and the front office staff when buses are coming in. It really helps cut down the wait time and helps teachers just focus on their kids when they're at the school and then the ability to just jump outside and grab other students and head back in. So there's not a lot of wait time out on the curb.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us. When we come back, more about the Zonar MyView Family app and the security measures that are in the Zonar MyView Family app.

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Anthony Godfrey:
Most of the time buses are very predictable in when they arrive, when they get to school, when they leave. There are things that get in the way sometimes and it's nice to have the peace of mind that you can go in and check and say, "Hey wait a minute, the bus isn't here yet. What's going on?"

Debbie McKinlay:
Exactly. And you know we are, especially this time of year in orange cone season, that then moves into the snow season and traffic and those things delay buses so that they can see that the bus has left the yard, the bus has left the school, the bus is on its way and that really helps them have a sense of knowledge of where their students are and where they need to be and everything is going well.

Mary Ann Balfour:
And some of the background information that we really focus on in the mornings and throughout the day is you know obviously we have a lot of buses and they're not always running smoothly. If a bus breaks down, switches to a spare bus, that's where I try to focus and concentrate and the communication between driver and myself to be able to enter that spare so that it's kind of seamless for the parents. They don't need to enter a spare bus number in order to track the bus number. It automatically, if I'm alerted, I'm able to put it in and they won't even know the difference.

Paul Bergera;
And it's really neat because the coordination between the drivers and Deb, I hear it on the radio all the time and they're getting very good at telling her “Hey, I’m in a spare bus”, she does her magic and parents have no idea. The kids can realize there's a different bus coming but the parents would have no idea that there's a change in their service delivery.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you're able to switch things so that they're not tracking the wrong bus. They're tracking the bus that's actually coming to serve their students. That's tremendous that you're able to do that.

Debbie McKinlay:
It's really nice. You know, occasionally there's a hiccup, there might be something that breaks down and that lack of communication. That's not the number one priority on the driver's mind, it's safety and get the kids to school on time. So we kind of keep our ears open between dispatch and myself and service. We try to communicate and say, “okay, this was the spare bus we took out.” So, you know, it's taken a little bit but I think we're starting to work in mesh as a team here and it really is starting to benefit. I mean, everything has a hiccup but for the general people I think it works pretty smooth. And it's very convenient in that wintertime when it's so cold.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, absolutely. Great support to parents and great support to schools. What are some of the issues that you run into when you're troubleshooting with parents? What are some of the common concerns or questions?

Debbie McKinlay:
Honestly, just getting the students set up in the MyView app, sometimes they've registered late so when I get the list and import it into the MyView app, maybe their student's not on that list. So I’ll get “I can't find my students” and I just ask them to give me all their information and I hand put them in and that way occasionally we have a – “I'm not seeing my bus.”

Anthony Godfrey;
Yeah.

Debbie McKinlay:
And, you know, we have to troubleshoot that GPS system and say, okay, why is it not tracking?

Anthony Godfrey:
Sure.

Debbie McKinlay:
We have a couple of buses that have come in and we have to troubleshoot and work it out. That's the two things mostly.

Anthony Godfrey:
But most of the time it's just getting set up and making sure that they're in. Once they're in then it works pretty smoothly.

Debbie McKinlay:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now, the reason that parents have to enter in two numbers, the number for the zone and the number for the student is so that only the parents of a student on that bus can track that bus's location. Tell me a little bit more about that.

Debbie McKinlay:
So those two layers of security, if the parent needs someone else to track the bus, a nanny, a babysitter, they can give that information to the nanny and help them set up that connection.

Anthony Godfrey:
So the parent can share that number but we don't share it with anyone but the parent.

Debbie McKinlay:
That's correct. In fact, I don't even provide the numbers. They need to go to the school and get the number if they don't know where to get it. I don't know if they're a parent or not. And so I tell them to go to the source to get that number.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you don't give them numbers?

Debbie McKinlay:
Nope.

Anthony Godfrey:
You don't know who's on the other end of the line or who's emailing you.

Debbie McKinlay:
That's correct.

Anthony Godfrey:
But you give them instructions on how to find it themselves.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's a great level of security and peace of mind.

Debbie McKinlay:
That's correct.

Paul Bergera:
And that truly was part of the objective when this was first decided. It was very important to Cabinet that there was that layer of security. We piloted it in spring of 2022 at three schools, kind of an elementary, a middle, and a high school that feed into each other. That seemed to work out really well. Then when it came time to launch in fall of 2022, we did make sure that it did go through legal counsel and other added measures to ensure confidentiality and safety, and security.

Anthony Godfrey:
And with two years under our belts, it's worked well and it's benefiting a lot of families. Hopefully, those listening can download it and benefit as well.

Paul Bergera:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now tell me about the three of you. How long have you each been in transportation? And what are some of the things that you've done here? Mary Anne, you're kind of laughing. Are you the elder statesman here?

Mary Anne Balfour:
No, I'm the nanosecond.

Anthony Godfrey:
Really? How long have you been in transportation?

Mary Anne Balfour:
This is my second year.

Anthony Godfrey:
Second year. Okay. Great. And how about for you?

Debbie McKinlay;
I've actually been here for almost 14.

Anthony Godfrey:
Almost 14.

Debbie McKinlay:
And I take care of all of the external systems that don't come with the buses. I help with the camera systems and I am over the GPS system. We help with the dispatch technology and, of course, anything that comes with MyView. So we're kind of a catch-all department. If they need something, we try to figure it out for everyone.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. And Paul?

Paul Bergera:
I've been here for five years. So I've been a teacher and a principal in the district and have made my way to transportation and have not looked back. I really enjoy being out here. We've done some very innovative things. I believe in the past several years, Zonar MyView Parent App is one thing. We would also encourage parents to make sure that they're on Parent Square because the Zonar MyView Parent App is one way to communicate with parents where their bus is. Parent Square is another way that allows us to give information to parents the morning of or the week of just to make sure that they have as much information as they can that may impact their student's busing.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, Parent Square is new this year, so we keep adding measures to try to communicate more and more effectively with parents. Thanks for everything the three of you are doing to help make sure that goes smoothly and good luck out there.

Paul Bergera:
Thank you.

Mary Anne Balfour:
Oh, you're welcome. Thanks.

Debbie McKinlay:
Thanks for having us.

Paul Bergera:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you will do today. We'll see you out there.

Lisa Eskesen:
It's a great way to kind of get a pulse on the school of what's happening there and then also to work together with other parents in representing the community, the student community at that school, and what their needs might be.

Anthony Godfrey:
If you want to join a School Community Council you get to play a part in allocating a portion of that eight million dollars to make sure that it is meeting the highest academic need in a school.

Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. They play a vital role in our schools, leading the way, making decisions regarding School LAND Trust money and so much more.

On this episode of the Supercast, find out why parents participate on School Community Councils and how their involvement can elevate the quality of education for students by addressing needs and rallying support.

We're talking today with Lisa Eskesen about School Community Councils. She's been a parent on several and Mike Anderson, our Associate Superintendent, who oversees the work of School Community Councils and submitting information to the state, completing the trainings, all of that. So thank you both for being here.

Lisa Eskesen:
Thank you.

Mike Anderson:
My pleasure.

Anthony Godfrey
Lisa, tell us about your involvement with School Community Councils.

Lisa Eskesen:
I have been involved on School Community Councils–my oldest just graduated from high school this year and so since she was probably in first or second grade I started being on the School Community Council at her elementary school.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you have well over a decade of School Community Council experience.

Lisa Eskesen:
Around there, yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about some of the things that you've been involved in, the schools where you've served, and really for those who may not be familiar what it's been all about from a parent perspective.

Lisa Eskesen:
Okay. So like I said, my oldest just graduated. She went to elementary school at Fox Hollow Elementary and my kids go to Sunset Ridge Middle School. So once we graduated into the middle school, I went there and then at Copper Hills High School I also have served on the community council at that level. My youngest just finished at the elementary so I have consecutively been on that council for a handful of years.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. So you've seen some projects come and go.

Lisa Eskesen:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
Part of what you do is you approve funding. Are there some projects that stand out that you've been able to help fund as a School Community Council that you're particularly proud of or were particularly interesting for you?

Lisa Eskesen:
Well pre-COVID when I was on the council at the middle school, one of the things that the principal and the council there really felt strongly about was technology and getting students one-to-one. So we were able to get one-to-one Chromebook use right as COVID hit. So the timing of that, it worked out perfectly. We were able to get the students who needed it their Chromebooks that they definitely used during COVID and online school.

Anthony Godfrey:
They had great timing on that.

Lisa Eskesen:
I know. A lot of thanks goes to Ms. Searle on that one, our principal. She was really pushing for that and saw that need and not even related to COVID, but she just saw the benefit that that would be to the students to have one to one technology.

Anthony Godfrey:
And the School Community Council is able to fund that through the LAND Trust money that is received from the state. Mike, tell us a little bit about how that works because that funding component is a main responsibility of the School Community Council.

Mike Anderson:
It is. It's one of the principal responsibilities they have. The history behind the LAND Trust program is quite fascinating. If you may, just a little bit of history there. When our founding leaders began expansion of the United States they saw to it that for every section of land that was marked and surveyed, that they would set aside a couple of sections of land for public school use. As they went further west, more land, less livable land in terms of irrigation and so forth, they actually gave more land to the Western States for public use than they did to the Eastern States.

Well, Utah is a beneficiary of that because we have enough land in the public trust to constitute a state the size of New Jersey inside of the state of Utah. That's how much public LAND Trust there are out there. So what happens is those lands get leased for mineral rights, for recreation purposes, for businesses that want to build on them, and the lease monies and all of the returns and the profits from that go into a general fund. That fund is then distributed on an annual basis to schools.

Years ago in the 1980s, a well-informed PTA mom at the time, found out about the laws that governed LAND Trust in the state of Utah and realized that they weren't really being safeguarded as they should be. The legislature was using LAND Trust money outside of the intended scope. She helped the legislature pass laws that really safeguarded and built fences around the LAND Trust initiative that protected those monies. And it grew from a very small amount at the time in 1985-ish to over, I think we have well over $3.2 billion dollars. That’s billion with a “B” in the LAND Trust program today. And so we get a distribution at the school level each year. This year, Jordan School District is going to receive $8.3 million. That accounts to about $145 per student.

Anthony Godfrey:
What that means is that if you're on a School Community Council, you're part of the group that by law helps allocate the money from LAND Trust. You have to approve that LAND Trust plan. And that means that if you want to join a School Community Council, you get to play a part in allocating a portion of that $8 million to make sure that it is meeting the highest academic need in a school, which obviously the Chromebooks that you were involved in allocating money for qualify for that for sure.

Lisa Eskesen:
That's one great example and there's some other great projects and it really is specific to the school's needs.

Anthony Godfrey:
It involves school staff, but the membership always has to include more parents than school staff members. That just shows the importance of parent voices and how we use that money and also how we guide the work of our schools.

Lisa Eskesen:
Yeah, the requirements for the School Community Council, we need to have a two parent majority on each of them. So it includes some staff members from the school. It includes the principal, but the majority of it always does need to be parents of students, parents or guardians of students who are enrolled at the school.

Anthony Godfrey:
What does it mean for you as a parent to be able to be involved in this way at your child's school over the years?

Lisa Eskesen:
I've been involved at my kids' schools in various ways over the last several years. I've done some PTA. I volunteered in classrooms and I enjoy all of it. I really think it's all important. This is just another way that I felt like I could be involved. It works for me. It's something I'm interested in. I like the conversations that we have on the School Community Council, the issues kind of just overseeing some of the things going on at the school. It's a great way to kind of get a pulse on the school of what's happening there, get to know some of the administration and the staff there, and then also to work together with other parents in representing the community, the student community at that school and what their needs might be.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us. When we come back find out how you can be a voice and play a vital role at your school as part of a School Community Council.

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Anthony Godfrey:
Sometimes busy parents with kids in school may be concerned about the level of time involvement that's required to be a part of a School Community Council. What has your experience been over the years in terms of how much time it takes and what  does that look like just in terms of the meetings and the amount of time that you've had to spend?

Lisa Eskesen:
Each council is required to meet at least four times a year, so that's actually not too bad. Four times during the school year. I've only seen maybe twice where we've had to meet one extra time maybe for budget needs or you know some special project or something like that needs to be met to discuss. But otherwise it's just four meetings a year. Those meetings can last you know one to two hours. As we get close to the end of the school year and we're talking about the LAND Trust funds and that budget, some of those conversations can be a little bit longer as we dig into some of the details of that. But otherwise it's four meetings a year generally.

Anthony Godfrey:
And I know there are a number of times when we go to a School Community Council because we have a question that we want parent input on. So we take it to the School Community Council. For example, the dress code policy, when the Board was considering a change in dress code policy, we took months going to each School Community Council at the secondary level to go over those changes. We really got some great input from those groups. Were you a part of any of those discussions?

Lisa Eskesen:
Yes, I was there for some of those. The other thing that I can think of is related to boundary changes. And it's not that the Community Council has any more sway with the district or anything like that but we're there to represent the community of the students. So if we have that information we can help answer questions with other parents of students at the school and maybe get some feedback that we can then take back to the council and discuss for things that might be helpful as the Board is making some of those decisions.

Mike Anderson:
In fact I remember going out to Lisa's School Community Council to talk about a pending boundary change. We got great feedback from the Community Council. Lisa specifically asked some really great questions that we were able to bring back and help inform the process and consider alternatives.

Anthony Godfrey:
What are some of the other responsibilities of the School Community Council?

Mike Anderson:
I think one good example of an area where the School Community Council has to be involved by law is with the Teacher and Student Success Act commonly known as the TSSA. That was created by the legislature in 2019 and it's funded in large part similar to how School LAND Trust is allocated on a per student basis. It ends up being a fairly sizable amount and it grows each year. It's an ongoing source of funding that the legislature has allocated. Now the School Community Council helps create the plan. They don't approve the TSSA plan, that's set forth by the Board and ultimately the School Board does approve that and they create the framework on which that's supposed to be based, but the TSSA requires School Community Council input on the plan.

Anthony Godfrey:
The TSSA is just another way that the state is putting money directly to schools and one of the reasons they're willing to do that is because they know that parents will be involved in helping allocate those funds. TSSA money and LAND Trust money is increasing every year.

Mike Anderson:
It is. In fact, it's pretty remarkable. I mentioned earlier the per student amount for LAND Trust is about $145. It's similar with TSSA but you get a large high school and they're dealing with around $700,000 worth of pretty flexible money when you combine the TSSA and the LAND Trust plans. The Community Council has a pretty direct say and a lot of input as to how that's spent.

School Community Councils also review the digital citizenship requirements for the school. Principals will often bring the school student handbook with them and make sure they are familiar with the rules and get input from both the teachers and the parents on the council. I think that's an important component that the School Community Council really gives key stakeholder groups a voice.

You've got the principal who's automatically seated on the council, does vote but is not elected of course. You've got faculty members, teachers from the school that also serve on the council and as Lisa mentioned there has to be at least a two parent majority on the council. The baseline for that at the elementary and middle schools are four parents and two faculty members or two employees and at the high school that jumps up to six parents and four staff members. If they feel like those numbers need to be adjusted because of interest or because of a lot of input from the school they can be adjusted through what we call the rules of order and procedure and the School Community Council votes on those. Those are actually posted and kind of the rules that govern the council and the state law is pretty specific on how those are to be carried out and executed. It's a great way to allow the flexibility to tailor the needs of the school through the School Community Council.

Anthony Godfrey:
Let's talk about how those meetings are run because the principal is a part of that meeting automatically as are a few staff members but it's chaired by a parent. Tell me about how that works.

Lisa Eskesen:
Correct. So while it is a principal who is automatically placed the chair is a parent, it is led by a parent so that just I think underscores the need for that parent involvement. The principal, the school staff they don't run the meetings. The principal can suggest items maybe to put on the agenda but it is ultimately up to the chair and the member of the council for what items actually get discussed and placed on that agenda.

Anthony Godfrey:
From a school perspective, I know that having a strong School Community Council chair who makes the most of those meetings and having involved parents as members of the School Community Council is a huge support to the principal. It really helps things go well so it's an important dynamic there that's established between the chair and the principal.

Lisa Eskesen:
Definitely. It absolutely is.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, Lisa, thank you very much for all the time you've spent over the years being part of that School Community Council. A lot of great things have happened as a result of that. I don't know all the School Community Council presidents of course but I've definitely heard your name associated with great things happening out there.

Mike, thank you. You've overseen this for many years in the training that's offered to new School Community Council members so thank you for all the support you give those parents and staff members making decisions at the school level to help support our students and our staff.

Mike Anderson:
Thanks for having me.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you'll do today. We'll see you out there.

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Anthony Godfrey:
When you are not counseling, you are pickleballing.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes, I'll be on the pickleball court.

Anthony Godfrey:
Is that a verb? Pickleballing?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes, pickleballing. Okay, so I traveled to 36 states in 19 days, and I played in 33 of those 36 states that I traveled to.

Anthony Godfrey:
Any of these events set up in advance?

Lorraine Rupper:
Nope. I just show up randomly.

Anthony Godfrey:
You showed up.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. It's a sport that's taking off across the country, but I'm not sure anyone else has taken off across the country themselves to play pickleball in every state.

On the show today, we have some fun with West Hills Middle School counselor Lorraine Rupper. Find out how she managed to travel to all 50 states, playing a pickup game of pickleball with strangers at every stop, and making memories to last a lifetime.

We're talking now with Lorraine Rupper here at West Hills Middle School. You're a counselor here at West Hills, but when you are not counseling, you are pickleballing.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes, I'll be on the pickleball court.

Anthony Godfrey:
Is that a verb? Pickleballing?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes, pickleballing.

Anthony Godfrey:
You have done so across the country this last summer. Tell me the stats up front and then let's talk about the experience.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay, so I traveled to 36 states in 19 days, and I played in 33 of those 36 states that I traveled through this summer. In 19 days.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you played in 33 states. What made you say to yourself, "You know what? I need to play this across the country."

Lorraine Rupper:
I just wanted to spread the love of pickleball, and I feel like I am a good player. So normally, lower-level players, they always want to play with the upper-level players. So I'm like, I'm an upper-level player, and I want to meet people that have the same passion I do of playing pickleball. And I'm like, “I've never been to the south and I haven't been to the east. So here's a great way to do it.”

Anthony Godfrey:
So you were helping people elevate their game by having them play with someone who has some skills beyond the casual pickleballer.

Lorraine Rupper:
Mm-hmm.

Anthony Godfrey:
How many states had you traveled to before embarking on this journey?

Lorraine Rupper:
I had played in 17 states.

Anthony Godfrey:
You played in 17.

Lorraine Rupper:
17.

Anthony Godfrey:
So if my math is right, you've now played in all 50 states? Is that right?

Lorraine Rupper:
All 50 states, yep.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, so 33 states in 19 days. Tell me, what does playing pickleball in a state count as? Because obviously, you had to cram in multiple states into one day.

Lorraine Rupper:
Mm-hmm.

Anthony Godfrey:
Talk to me about how that happened.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay, so there was a general plan that somebody has done to play pickleball in every state. I could skip some of those because I had done most of the western states already. And then they would say where to go next. So sometimes I would go by that plan, and sometimes I had to deviate from that plan.

Like West Virginia, it says to play at a certain spot. So I went to West Virginia and I went to that spot, and I found a pickleball court, but there's nobody to play with. It's in the middle of summer, it's noon, and nobody wants to play on a court at noon when it's 95 degrees with 95% humidity. So I'm like, what should I do now? I can sit around and wait, which I did some.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you listened to John Denver for a second.

Lorraine Rupper:
Of course.

Anthony Godfrey:
“Mountain Mama, West Virginia”, then no one came.

Lorraine Rupper:
Nobody came. I even sang and I'm a terrible singer. Maybe that's why they escaped and ran away. So I just was like, well, let's see where else we can play in Virginia. So I drove for three hours, found another place to play, and I sat there waiting for people. I found a court, which by the way, all the courts aren't accurate for their addresses because I ended up at some lady's house and she's all like, I said, “is there a pickleball court here?”

Anthony Godfrey:
Did she play pickleball with you and make lemonade for you?

Lorraine Rupper:
No. So I ended up going to a park and waiting and waiting and waiting, probably like an hour. And then a couple came back from a little trip and then there was two couples. One went to the truck and then I bravely went over to the other one and said, “Would you please play pickleball with me?” And they're like, “What's pickleball?” And I told them what it was. And the wife who was in flip flops and she's like, “No”. And the husband's like, “I can give it a shot if you will run my errands for me, honey.” And she's like, “Yeah, I can do that.”

Anthony Godfrey:
So she ran errands while he played pickleball with a woman he'd never met. Wow. Okay.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah. So we went over there and we played skinny singles on the court and it was super fun. And he was really good. He said, “I played tennis in high school” and I was like “Tennis players, make good pickleball players.” And he played really great. Of course, he didn't beat me, but he was good. But I was so excited to mark West Virginia off the list. I'm like, “Hey, let me give you a paddle.” And I gave him and his wife a paddle. I gave her some pickleball earrings, gave him some balls and say, come back and play again.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. Now I'm noticing your pickleball earrings. That's next level stuff as well. Any of these events set up in advance?

Lorraine Rupper:
Nope. I would just show up randomly.

Anthony Godfrey:
You showed up. Did you, as you talked with these folks, did you make friends that you stayed in contact with?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes. There's a couple like in Alabama was my favorite place to play. They're like, “Hey, Lorraine, we're having a luncheon afterwards. A little picnic. Do you want to come?” And I'm like, “Sure.”

Anthony Godfrey:
You didn't say I've got 25 states left to go. I got to get out of here.

Lorraine Rupper:
No, Heck no, not when they're friendly to me. They said, “Oh, we're having salads and ice cream.” And I'm like, “Two things you don't have on a road trip, salads and ice cream. I am there.” There's one day a month that they do this luncheon and I just happened to be on the day that they had their lunch and not planned or anything.

Anthony Godfrey:
So even though West Virginia left you high and dry for a few hours, you also hit the jackpot a few times along the way.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, I did, yes. It was up and down, up and down. I just had to roll with the flow.

Anthony Godfrey:
What was the most difficult state to get a match in besides West Virginia? Were there other people who were reluctant to play with you or other locations that were difficult?

Lorraine Rupper:
So I would usually get the same reaction, because a lot of times people have their own group of four that are pretty good players. And so they would look at me skeptically and like, I would say Rhode Island, for example. And so I'd say, “I'll just sit here and watch you play a couple of games.” So I would sit with my head in my little umbrella. And I was watching him play. And then one of them felt bad, of course. And so he's like, “Why don't you take my spot one game?” And the one guy was still like, “Oh, I'm really skeptical.” So I played a game. And the guy's like, “Will you be my partner next, Lorraine?”

Anthony Godfrey:
You seem like a very nice person, very personable. Why would they be suspect of someone who just wants to play pickleball?

Lorraine Rupper:
Because I'm an old lady and they think I'm not going to be very good. They want to play, get some good games in while they're playing. But once they find out how good I am, then they're like, “Oh, yeah, we want her to play some more because she's good competition.”

Anthony Godfrey:
So were the southern states as friendly as they are reputed to be?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yes. It's the Northeastern that I had an issue with.

Anthony Godfrey:
OK.

Lorraine Rupper:
Like, can I tell you a story about Maine?

Anthony Godfrey:
Sure, please.

Lorraine Rupper:
OK. So we went to Maine. And in York, Maine, I was there and I went to a private club. Because it was one of the places--

Anthony Godfrey:
Did you hop the fence or cut a hole in and crawl through?

Lorraine Rupper:
To me, it looked like a public place.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you just walked in like you knew what you were doing.

Lorraine Rupper:
And I was in my little skirt and with my paddle--

Anthony Godfrey:
You're a pickle baller, you walk in like you own the place.

Lorraine Rupper:
And they're like, “This is a private club.” And I said, “Well, I'm willing to pay a fee if you'll let me play here.” He just told me to go on to the high school. And then he said, “Oh, you have to be a member or a guest of a member. That's the only people that play here.” So there's like five guys standing across in the same room. And I looked at all of them. And I said, “Hey, can I be somebody's guest?” And they're busy looking at the ceiling, looking at the floor, anywhere but making eye contact with me. So he said, “Well, I can just give you directions to the high school” where it's 95 degrees with 95% humidity. So I'm like, OK. So he gave me directions to the high school. I went to the high school. Kind of hard to find, but I finally found the courts. And went and there was a lady and her son. So I went and asked them if they would play with me. And they said, yes, I was really happy. So I played me against those two. And I think I had to play left-handed just to– I would never beat anybody 11-0. So I'd make sure I'd go left-handed if I was too good. And I always had the whole court.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you always wanted to give them a point.

Lorraine Rupper:
Always. I would never beat anybody 11-0. And I asked them if I could take a picture with them. And they're like, no. So you'll notice on my map, the empty court right there goes to Maine.

Anthony Godfrey:
OK. So yeah, let's take a look. You did take a picture with everyone. How wonderful.

Lorraine Rupper:
I did.

Anthony Godfrey:
And you wrote down their names. Oh, yeah. You can see just how friendly they all are. What a wonderful map. So you've laid this out. Great memories. OK. I'm noticing that there are-- yeah, look at that.

Lorraine Rupper:
So the month of June, 19 days on the road. And then the month of July, putting the map together. Because that was not an easy task either. Making sure the pictures are the right sizes. Make sure they fit on the area that's indicated. Make sure they're not covering up any states.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wisconsin looks like they were having a great time.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, we had a great time in Wisconsin.

Anthony Godfrey:
Emily, Ben, Gary, and Annie. They seem like nice people.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah, they're a family. And this one right there, sometimes in South Dakota, I could only play with the one guy because other people were already gone. Or they had their own little courts or their own little thing going on. So he played me skinny singles. And he won, I think, the first game. We played again. And I won. He's like, “Oh, it's a rubber match. Now we have to play again.” And so I beat him. And he walks off the court. And he says, “This is the first time I've ever lost in singles.”

Anthony Godfrey:
Really?

Lorraine Rupper:
So I was like, whoa, that's good to know.

Anthony Godfrey:
Have you ever thought about what story he's telling other people about losing for the first time at Pickleball?

Lorraine Rupper:
He probably wouldn't tell them.

Anthony Godfrey:
You have great stories. But you've given all these people some great stories. That's for sure.

Lorraine Rupper:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Do you tell them when you introduce yourself that you are traveling the country and you're checking off states? Or do you just say, “would you like to play Pickleball?”

Lorraine Rupper:
Most of the time, if it's just three people, I'll just say, “Hey, can I play?” And then I play. If it's four, then you're the odd man out, right? And then I just want to get one game in. I want-- I'm trying to play Pickleball in every state. That was Missouri, that they had their own group of four. And I told them I was trying to play Pickleball in every state. And they're like, “Let's get you on the court then.”

Anthony Godfrey:
You don't pick out the one who's doing the worst and say, “Look, that guy over there in the purple shorts, I want to take his place. And you know you need someone to take his place.”

Lorraine Rupper:
No, because most groups will have everybody that's similar in their ability. Like they're all 4.0s or all 3.5.

Anthony Godfrey:
OK. So they're all pretty well matched.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah. And one in Pennsylvania, Erie, Pennsylvania, they did say, “What's your ranking?” So they wanted to tell my ranking before I told them.

Anthony Godfrey:
What is your ranking?

Lorraine Rupper:
Right now it's 4.6 something. But I've been as high as 5.0.

Anthony Godfrey:
When you say 4.6, does that get their attention and make them want to play?

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, well, at the time I was at 4.8. And they're like, “You could be my partner.” And then they pulled me over. Because they're mostly 4.0s.

Anthony Godfrey:
So that helps.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah, yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's good.

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's good. And did you ever get sick of Pickleball?

Lorraine Rupper:
No, no. But I did want to leave in Vermont. Vermont was a challenge. I was like, if home--

Anthony Godfrey:
We don't have a lot of listeners in Vermont so go ahead. Lay it down.

Lorraine Rupper:
Well, I was in Vermont. I was just like, if home was an hour away, I would go home.

Anthony Godfrey:
Really?

Lorraine Rupper:
I was not in it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Was it because of Vermont or because at that stage of the trip, it just felt like a lot?

Lorraine Rupper:
No, I was just going to so many places and trying to find people to play. I went to all the five places that were in that town. And they're like, “Oh, you might have to go to this other town two and a half hours away.” And I was like, “Oh.” And I was just so tired of traveling. I'd gone all the way up. And I was just like, “I don't want to be here anymore. I just want to be home.”

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us. When we come back more tales of travel from our counselor with a passion for pickleball.

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Anthony Godfrey:
Now, I'm told that you have a pickleball drawer in your office. You have lots of drawers in your office. Can you tell me which one and what's going on in there?

Lorraine Rupper:

You want to open that one?
Anthony Godfrey:
Sure. Let's open her up. Oh, my heavens. Well, that's a...That is a heavy box. Wow. That is heavier than a tennis racket. Look at that. September Showdown, Salt Lake County. Good grief.

Lorraine Rupper:
Notice it's a gold medal.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh yeah.

Lorraine Rupper:
That one's bronze.

Anthony Godfrey:
The Big Dill Pickleball Tournament. That may be my favorite right there. Oh wow. How long have you been playing pickleball to earn all of these awards?

Lorraine Rupper:
About 10 years.

Anthony Godfrey:
Portneuf Medical Center. These are not participant awards. These are the awards of a victor. Utah Pickleball first place, PTSD awareness. I like that one.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. That's a ton. Bravo. Congratulations.

Lorraine Rupper:
Thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
You are not a casual player. That was established right out of the chute. Look at that. Now, I understand that you did have an afterschool program at West Jordan Middle School.

Lorraine Rupper:
Mm-hmm.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about that.

Lorraine Rupper:
Well, they just needed someone to do different activities. If you have a hobby or something you like to do, sign up. So I'm like, okay, Miss Garrison, I will sign up to do pickleball afterschool. And so they had lines painted in the gym and we would just set up the nets. Once a week, we'd get the kids out, teach them to play, and we'd play. And it was so fun. Super fun.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. That's fantastic. And the kids take to it quickly?

Lorraine Rupper:
Yeah. It's easy to pick up and hit a ball with a paddle, right?

Anthony Godfrey:
Easy to play. Difficult to master.

Lorraine Rupper:
The hardest part is learning how to keep score.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Switching up that first time and yeah.

Lorraine Rupper:
Three numbers. I'm like, the third number is always a one or a two. I'm a numbers person because I graduated in math education. I taught math for 20 years. That's what I did at West Jordan Middle School.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Lorraine Rupper:
So I taught math there. But then I was able to get a counseling job. And so...

Anthony Godfrey:
I can never keep track. I stop and I say, no, wait, what was it? 75-1? 751? I don't know. What is the next adventure for you? This is tremendous that you took this trip. I love a good road trip. And I'm quite envious actually that you have managed to see so many states in such a short period of time. I've seen all 50 states, but it took me 50 years to do it. Not 19 days and one other trip. So tell me, what's the next adventure? Meeting you and seeing the energy that you have, I can't imagine that you're done.

Lorraine Rupper:
I'm not done, but I don't know what that next adventure could be yet.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. Yeah.

Lorraine Rupper:
Maybe it's teaching more middle schoolers how to play and get the passion of playing.

Anthony Godfrey;
I like the sound of that. I like the sound of that. I know you have your equipment, so let's step out and knock the ball around a little bit.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay.

Anthony Godfrey:
So show me some basics that will, you know, make it so that I can take the heat and stay in the kitchen.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay. You want to hold it with one hand?

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

Lorraine Rupper:
Are you left-handed?

Anthony Godfrey:
I'm left-handed. I apologize.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, no, I love left-handed players.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, okay. Great.

Lorraine Rupper:
All right. So you just want to hit it soft and into the kitchen. There you go. Take one step in and one step out. There you go.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, it feels good.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, that's good. If you want to, go ahead and whack it.

Anthony Godfrey:
I have a feeling you're going to whack it back if I do though.

Lorraine Rupper:
Oh, that's true. That might happen. You never know.

Anthony Godfrey:
So show me something that you do in the kitchen to throw people off.

Lorraine Rupper:
Well, not necessarily in the kitchen, but outside the kitchen.

Anthony Godfrey:
Right, around the kitchen.

Lorraine Rupper:
So say you're dinking like this, dinking like this.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oops. No, that's not. It's a good thing people can't hear it not going over the net on the other side. Well, my instinct was to reach out and grab it because it was going by me for sure. Wow. It even kind of stings. You really put some mustard on that one.

Lorraine Rupper:
Sorry, hopefully I didn't sting you too much.

Anthony Godfrey:
No, no, it's great. Lay it on me. Lorraine, it's been a pleasure talking with you, playing with you, and I'm really excited for whatever next adventure you have. I think there are a lot of lucky people out there that got to play pickleball with you across the country.

Lorraine Rupper:
I was lucky to play with them really. Some of them some great people out there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for the time and thanks for everything you do here at West Hills.

Lorraine Rupper:
Okay.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you will do today. We'll see you out there.

Anthony Godfrey:
How many hours in a row, if you didn't have anywhere else you had to be, do you think you could skate non-stop before you got tired of it? Do you ever get tired of skating?

JaShawn:
I've skated for 10 hours before.

Anthony Godfrey:
10 hours straight? That is so awesome and it's so much better than sitting for 10 hours straight with a screen in front of you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. Today we're heading out to a local skate park to meet South Hills Middle School student, JaShawn Hill. JaShawn has some serious skills on wheels and he wants to become a professional skateboarder. Find out about the grit it will take to get him there and the lessons he's learning along the way. Lessons that are helping JaShawn in competitions across the country and in the classroom.

And now we meet up with JaShawn on the heels at a national skateboarding competition.

We're talking with JaShawn Hill here at the Bluffdale Skate Park. Thanks for talking with me today. Tell me about some of your accomplishments as a skater right now.

JaShawn:
Just practicing every day and stuff. Trying to become pro.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Have you been in competitions lately?

JaShawn:
Yeah. I was like in one like a month ago.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about that.

JaShawn:
I got third place. Tried my best.

Anthony Godfrey:
And what kind of competition is that? What's the competition called?

JaShawn:
Street competition.

Anthony Godfrey:
Street competition.

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
So what does street competition involve? Lots of ollies I'm sure.

JaShawn:
Well, yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's the only term I know. You're going to teach me some slang. Some skateboarding slang. Tell me what's involved in that street competition.

JaShawn:
Like ledges, rails, like eight stairs.

Anthony Godfrey:
So it's set up as if you were just doing some street skating as opposed to on a course or in a park like this.

JaShawn:
Pretty much, yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
So do you have a specialty going downstairs? Going along a rail?

JaShawn:
Going on rails and downstairs.

Anthony Godfrey:
And downstairs? So tell me what goes through your mind the first time you skateboard down some stairs.

JaShawn:
Don't fall.

Anthony Godfrey:
Don't fall. But skateboarding involves a lot of falling. When I've watched skate videos over the years, there's a lot of falling and picking yourself back up and figuring out how to make the trick stick that time, right?

JaShawn:
Yeah. I just fell. Just barely.

Anthony Godfrey:
You just barely fell? What were you trying to do?

JaShawn:
Just back tail slide.

Anthony Godfrey:
A back tail slide?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
So what does a back tail slide involve?

JaShawn:
You do like an ollie, but you 180 halfway on the ledge and you put your tail on the ledge and slide it and you pop right out.

Anthony Godfrey:
So you try to slide. So the back of the skateboard would be along the ledge. Can we go to a ledge and you can show me what that would look like?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
This is a pretty cool setup. Is this your preferred park?

JaShawn:
Yeah. I like this park.

Anthony Godfrey:
This is a cement ramp with some cement sides to it and it's reinforced with metal edges so those edges don't wear down. Show me what the skateboard would do if you were doing that trick. The back– tell me what it's called again?

JaShawn:
Back tail slide.

Anthony Godfrey:

Back tail slide. So show me a back tail slide.

JaShawn:
So I go like this and then I go like that and then you go down.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. Actually I'm going to have to see you do that. Okay. Let's see you try it again.

JaShawn:
Actually actually.

Anthony Godfrey:
Have you done this a lot?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay.

JaShawn:
I'll do it right there.

Anthony Godfrey:
Alright. Let's see you do it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. I could not. If I tried that, we would be calling 911 shortly and I would be healing for many weeks. Tell me about your board here.

JaShawn:
I got a Directive board.

Sister:
I got stickers.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, and your sister is here. Did you get the stickers? You got stickers from the board when it came.

Sister:
From him.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, nice. So tell me, so Directive is a brand?

JaShawn:
Yeah, it's my board sponsor and independent wheels. I mean no trucks.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, so independent. So the truck is what attaches to the board and holds the wheel right?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
So because you're sponsored, do you get some free stuff?

JaShawn:
Yeah, I get free shirts and boards.

Sister;
And stickers.

Anthony Godfrey:
And stickers for your sister. Perfect.

JaShawn:
They promote me so like bigger companies can see me like Nike, SB or like New Balance and stuff. That's my dream sponsors.

Anthony Godfrey:
Those are the dream sponsors huh?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Alright, what is your most difficult trick that you've been able to stick?

JaShawn:
Kickflip front board.

Anthony Godfrey:
Kickflip front board.

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
How frequently have you done that one?

JaShawn:
I'm getting better at them so like I can almost do like every other try.

Anthony Godfrey:
So what does that involve?

JaShawn:
A kickflip and like a front board on the rail.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, so where you slide along the rail on the front of the board.

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
And is sliding along on the front of the board harder than the back of the board?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Why don't you try it? I think that's better.

So he went back up on the quarter pipe just to get a little momentum and gives it a couple of kicks, comes down the ramp, up on the rail. Oh, and it flips around and but luckily he did not flip around. The board did. Wow. What do you call that?

JaShawn:
Kickflip.

Anthony Godfrey:
That is a great kickflip. How many times does it go around? 360 or 720?

JaShawn:
Yeah. All the way around once. Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Will you do that again? That was pretty amazing. You did that like you were tying your shoe. Wow. That is fantastic. So the idea is to do a kickflip and end it with having the front of the board riding along the rail there.

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
How long have you been skating?

JaShawn:
Three years.

Anthony Godfrey:
Three years and you are how old?

JaShawn:
14.

Anthony Godfrey:
14. So you started at age 11. See, I'm pretty good at math. Tell me what made you want to start skateboarding?

JaShawn:
I had like a penny board and I went down the hill.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh yeah, the plastic ones right?

JaShawn:
Yeah. I asked my dad if I can get a skateboard. I got one of the bad ones and I rode that and then I fell in love with it and got like an actual board.

Anthony Godfrey:
This is the deck and these are the trucks and the wheels. And what kind of wheels do you have on there?

JaShawn:
Bones wheels.

Anthony Godfrey:
Bones wheels. Yeah. Very nice. Well, I had a skateboard back when I was a teacher and I lived three houses away from the school where I was teaching so I had a cat in the hat skateboard and I would skate to and from school. But that was in the 1900s and I have not been on a skateboard for a very long time and I've never done any of the kind of tricks that you have.

So when you started on the penny, a penny is not going to lend itself to tricks. So you're a casual rider. What was the first trick that you really made work?

JaShawn:
An ollie.

Anthony Godfrey:
An ollie?

JaShawn:
It’s the trick that you need to learn anything.

Anthony Godfrey:
Now the ollie is kind of, it's just where you're standing still and you just go up in the air. You're able to kick on the back and then on the front which gives you some lift and puts you both up in the air and then you come straight down. Is that right?

JaShawn:
Yes.

Anthony Godfrey:
And how long do you think it took you to get your first ollie down?

JaShawn:
Like a week or two.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. Have you learned some perseverance like just sticking to it until you learn something from skateboarding? Because it seems like skateboarding teaches you that you just have to keep trying and trying. And even once you get it right, you're still going to mess up and you have to keep trying again.

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Does that apply to school and other parts of your life that you realize you just have to keep trying and you're going to get it eventually?

JaShawn:
Yeah. Like, you want to give up and you're going to have some like falls.

Anthony Godfrey:
You're going to get some scrapes along the way. Like you did today.

We're here with Jessica Burkhart, JaShawn's mom. Tell me about what skating has meant to JaShawn.

Jessica Burkhart:
Oh, everything. That's all he thinks about. So that's all he thinks about. Like every day he's skating. No matter if it's here, West Valley, in Midvale, anywhere. He goes everywhere. He goes to Ogden sometimes. He goes to Bountiful.

Anthony Godfrey:
So we're under the pavilion here at Bluffdale Skate Park. How many hours have you logged at these tables while he is skating?

Jessica Burkhart:
Oh, I go to the park while he skates. He skates way too long for me. Like he'll be here all day if he can be. If he finds a lot of stairs, he'll do that. We went to California and he found like a, I think a 16 stair out there that he wanted to skateboard that a lot of like pro skateboarders do. So he just came back from Vegas and was skating at skate parks out there as well.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow. That's awesome. So across the state, really across the country, he finds places to skate.

Jessica Burkhart:
Yeah. He likes to go everywhere. Um, he was supposed to go to Sweden, that got canceled, but that was because of work. Hopefully, next year they can make that out there by one of his sponsors. They’re supposed to take him, which is really awesome.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. So it sounds like he's had some great sponsors that are very supportive of helping him develop.

Jessica Burkhart:
Yes, definitely. Helps me too. Cause I don't have to buy him skateboards.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah. He told us about the nationals competition. Tell us about his going to California to compete.

Jessica Burkhart:
Yeah. Um, we had a lot of fun out there. They have an indoor skate park that they held it at. So he practiced there every day for an hour, two hours. They had time frame so we couldn't be there forever. Then he did really good.

He's friends with a kid that did like made first place out there. They're actually on the same team on the same sponsorship now and he does really well. We can't wait till nationals this year. He's already qualified cause he won first to his first competition.

Anthony Godfrey:
Once he started skating, did you see a change in him? He seems very determined and willing to just try things until he figures it out and is able to do things he couldn't do before.

Jessica Burkhart:
Yeah. He does a lot. His attitude changes a lot. He don't play video games. So I'm glad he doesn't play video games. He's not on his phone all the time. He's outside and that's what kids need to do is be outside.

Anthony Godfrey:
Good luck to you and good luck to him and he's got a bright future. That's for sure.

Jessica Burkhart:
Yes. Thank you so much.

Anthony Godfrey:
Stay with us. When we come back JaShawn will show us some sick tricks.

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Anthony Godfrey:
So your friends at school know you're a skater, I assume. What do they think of that?

JaShawn:
They think they support and keep trying and stuff.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, so have you inspired some others to try skating?

JaShawn:
Yeah. My little brothers.

Anthony Godfrey:
Good. That's awesome. Oh yeah, your little brother's trying it out. What is the trick that you hit almost every time?

JaShawn:
A front blunt.

Anthony Godfrey:
A front blunt. And what does a front blunt look like?

JaShawn:
Like this, on the rail or at the ledge.

Anthony Godfrey:
Just riding that. Oh, coming up on the ledge, kind of sticking that and then you come back down. Okay, can we see that? Oh, there he goes along the rail. That is awesome.

How many hours in a row, if you didn't have anywhere else you had to be, do you think you could skate nonstop before you got tired of it? Do you ever get tired of skating?

JaShawn:
I've skated for 10 hours before.

Anthony Godfrey:
10 hours straight? That is so awesome. And it's so much better than sitting for 10 hours straight with a screen in front of you.

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Are there some skaters that you look up to? Some professionals that you really admire?

JaShawn:
Yeah. Nyjah Huston

Anthony Godfrey:
How old is he?

JaShawn:
I think like 27, 26.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, so he's an older guy.

JaShawn:
He was just in the Olympics.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh yeah, this year there is Olympic skateboarding. And I saw that there are some unique styles from the Japanese that they think might make them successful. Has that competition happened yet?

JaShawn:
Yeah, a guy named Yuto Horigomi, he's Japanese and he won.

Anthony Godfrey:
He did win. That's cool. That's cool. Did any Americans win at all?

JaShawn:
No, not in skateboarding. Well, yeah in skateboarding, but like the vert one. I don't really look at that stuff.

Anthony Godfrey:
So that's where they're doing the tricks when they get to the top of the half pipe.

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's the vert. I did see Tony Hawk skate once and that's really his style, isn't it? It's that half pipe and then you do the tricks at the top of the half pipe. But that's not your style. It's the street skate. And the street skating is an Olympic event that's separate from the half-pipe? Is that right? Are you particularly focused on street skating?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay, great. Have you had any injuries so far? Any serious injuries?

JaShawn:
No, not really. I've cracked my rib, my knee too.

Anthony Godfrey:
You cracked your rib and your knee?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, that's pretty serious. Does that impact your skating at all or you still feel pretty good?

JaShawn:
I still feel pretty good. My knees are getting old pretty fast.

Anthony Godfrey;
Your knees are getting old pretty fast?

JaShawn:
Yeah.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, I think you've got some good years ahead of you. Thanks very much for talking with me. I admire what you do. I always wanted to be a good skateboarder when I was your age. And I think it's really cool that you've put in the effort and you've got the talent and are seeing success. So congratulations on being sponsored and good luck with the future.

JaShawn:
Thank you.

Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you will do today. We'll see you out there.

Kamiko Adcock:
I have such a passion for filmmaking and I love being able to share that with my students.

Anthony Godfrey:
Of the students in your class, are there a few who've really sparked with this and have said "Wow, I really need to pursue this"?

Kamiko Adcock:
There's just dozens of students that are dying to get on sets that just graduated, starting production companies, working on short films. It's like the passion in them has really, really grown and it’s really cool.

Anthony Godfrey:
Hello and welcome to The Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. I had a blast spending time with the teacher you were about to meet. He went from teaching students in the classroom at Copper Hills High, to capturing a coveted invite to the Cannes Film Festival in France.

On this episode of The Supercast, hear the incredible story of the film and TV broadcasting teacher, who managed to produce a short film that was so good it was accepted at Cannes, and how he uses his experience and incredible talents to teach students at Copper Hills High.

We're here with Kamiko Adcock to talk about his experience at the Cannes Film Festival. Thanks for taking some time with us.

Kamiko Adcock:
Absolutely.

Anthony Godfrey:
We want to talk about a lot of things, but I'm a huge film fan and pop culture fan, so the fact that you went to the film festival is really exciting to me. Tell me about that experience and then we'll talk a little bit about the film that got you there.

Kamiko Adcock:
Yes, I mean, you know, as like a film lover myself, it's always been… Cannes always felt like this pipe dream, like, you have to get invited to go. There's a lot of misconceptions I had about it. But it was essentially ten days of living my dream, dream life. Of rubbing shoulders with industry professionals networking with really cool people, watching films months, maybe even a year before the public actually gets to see them. All on the French Riviera with the most beautiful views. It was just like the most unbelievable thing I've ever experienced.

Anthony Godfrey:
Well, we're going to get into the details there. Tell me about your role here at Copper Hills High School, first of all, and then we'll talk about the film and your experience in Cannes.

Kamiko Adcock:
Cool. My role here at Copper Hills is I am the video production and TV broadcasting teacher. I started a couple years ago straight out from industry, so I'm an APPL candidate, alternate pathway to licensure. And, yeah, I kind of got here, and the first thing I thought with my big students was, "Let's make a feature film." So we've made two features up to this point, which is really exciting.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's awesome.

Kamiko Adcock:
They write, direct produce, edit all of it. And I just love... I have such a passion for filmmaking, and I love being able to share that with my students.

Anthony Godfrey:
Tell me about those two films. What are the titles? What are they about? What was that experience like for you working with students, making those films? Coming from industry.

Kamiko Adcock:
Yeah, so the first one last year was “Right Club”. It's around 52 minutes, and it's on YouTube. And then this year's is called “Five More Minutes”. 78 minutes long. It's a sci-fi coming of age. Think “Inception” meets “Ready Player One”.

“Right Club” was very much kind of a, "Can we do this?" And then this year was a, "Okay, we can do it. Let's go bigger and better." It's much more ambitious. And it's, you know, as you get older, you meet people that are like, "I've got this script. I've got this killer script, and I'm really excited to make it." But they never do because it's harder to get things done as you age. Like you have jobs. You're frightened to have jobs.

Anthony Godfrey:
Sure.

Kamiko Adcock:
Warner Brothers won't come beating down your door to give you millions of dollars to make something that they've never seen you make before.

Anthony Godfrey:
Right.

Kamiko Adcock:
So with the students, they have a great controlled environment, where I've worked on a couple features before. So I know, generally speaking, how the process works. I've got set deadlines to make sure that they're coming along. And with that, yeah, in nine months, they've proven that they can make stuff. It's limited, you know, filmed a lot of it's filmed at school, and some of it's filmed outside.

Anthony Godfrey:
So “Five More Minutes”, talk me through about what the timeline is. How soon was the script written? Talk us through all the stages of that and about how long it took.

Kamiko Adcock:
Brainstorming starts the first day of school, and they have until end of September to get a rough draft written. So they have at least something written. And like when it comes to screenwriting, just write.

Anthony Godfrey:
Write something, yeah.

Kamiko Adcock:
Just write. You can go and fix it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Kamiko Adcock:
So starting around October 15th, before we have a fall break, we do auditions. They've essentially gotten little bits of the characters. So they go through, they have auditions with the students at the school, and then they've cast the film before fall break.

Anthony Godfrey:
And that goes beyond the class. They cast outside of the class. This is the production class.

Kamiko Adcock:
Yes. We did it after school from around three o'clock to four. So nothing like super, super intense. We do the auditions in my room. They do sides in the back. So they film the auditions. They can go back and revisit them. And then by the time, like beginning of November comes, our script has been locked and finalized.

Anthony Godfrey:
And then those auditions can be included on the special edition of the DVD. The Blu-ray, second disc that, you know, includes all the actors that didn't get chosen.

Kamiko Adcock:
So we have a BTS department, and that is part of their job, is compiling all the, you know, as historians for the film. So we have around seven episodes on CH Studios, which is our YouTube page, just documenting the process. And my friends who are filmmakers, it's like their favorite part of my program is watching the BTS and scene students.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's really cool. So when Criterion Collection re-releases it, now all that footage is available to pull in.

Kamiko Adcock:
That is the absolute dream. And then have them bring me into the Criterion closet.

Anthony Godfrey:
Oh, there you go.

Kamiko Adcock:
And pick some DVDs.

Anthony Godfrey:
There you go.

Kamiko Adcock:
That would be very cool.

Anthony Godfrey:
Perfect. We’ll aim toward that. What is it that you hope students gain from that experience over the course of the year, seeing a film go from ideas to being posted on YouTube?

Kamiko Adcock:
Man, that's a great question. My goal with the feature has always been to give them confidence and help them know if this is what they want to do. You know, if they go to college and they make some shorts, and then at 25 they make their first feature and they realize, "Oh, I hated that." Then they've kind of spent seven years of their lives, you know, running maybe towards nothing then they're going to pivot, which I pivoted, you know. We all pivot. But to help them know right now of, "Oh, I love being on set." Granted, it's five hours after school. It's not a full 12-hour day. But it gives them little bits and pieces of what does set look like? What does problem-solving look like? And problem solving is probably the next big thing, is allow them to know and to work under pressure and be able to function and solve things as the problems come on.

Anthony Godfrey:
Those who have listened to the podcast will know that I frequently mention specifically about CTE programs, how important it is for kids to have the opportunity to see what they are interested in, but also what they are not interested in for exactly the reason you stated. You don't want to spend seven years building up to something that you ultimately realize isn't for you. And so, of the students in your class, are there a few who've really sparked with this and have said, "Wow, I really need to pursue this. This needs to be what I do."

Kamiko Adcock:
Yeah, so last year, one of my students, I like to bring in friends from industry to kind of network with the students and give them contacts.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Kamiko Adcock:
And a couple of my friends really like, they met one of my students and the student like really impressed them. So, once school got out, they invited them and said, "Hey, do you want to come PA?" which is a production assistant.

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah.

Kamiko Adcock:
Run errands on set, get people lunch, get people food. Do you want to come PA for this 48-hour film festival we're going to do? And that's the film that got us to Cannes. And so, I had a student that graduated last year that came to Cannes with us. And last year, there was, you know, a handful like Isaac. And this year, it feels like it's quadruple quintuple. There's just dozens of students that are dying to get on sets. They've just graduated, starting production companies, working on short films. It's like the passion in them has really, really grown and it's really cool.

Anthony Godfrey:
I absolutely love that. That is so fun to hear that it's sparked and launched some kids in that direction.

Stay with us. When we come back we'll hear about Kamiko Adcock’s experience at the Cannes Film Festival and which celebrities he got to see. Stay with us.

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Anthony Godfrey:
So tell me about this film and how the 48-hour contest ended you up at Cannes.

Kamiko Adcock:
Yeah, so we've done it, I guess, so I did it the year before with my friend Jack. And it's a fun thing. 48 hours to write, outline, produce, and edit a seven-minute long max short film. You get a genre, you get a character, you get a line of dialogue, and a prop you have to use.

Anthony Godfrey:
And with all those restrictions, that way you can't just make a film in advance and then submit it and pretend you did it in 48 hours.

Kamiko Adcock:
Totally, yeah. So there's a lot of restrictions to what you can and can't do. Basically what you can do beforehand is get your actors, get your crew, and get your location. So we got this cool antique shop and we made this fun short about, I don't know if I would say it's fun actually. It's fun. It's a dark comedy fantasy about a man who's dating a ghost. The ghost is like, "All right, I want to be with you, but I'm a ghost. And so you've got to become a ghost too”, basically. And the whole short is the dialogue between them and him contemplating, "Do I want to be with this person who I love, who I've never seen, or do I kind of go my own way and continue my life?"

Anthony Godfrey:
And what's it called? Can we watch it?

Kamiko Adcock:
It's called “Sheet Talk”. We need to get it listed because with the 48-hour film festival, they basically told us, "Hey, keep it unlisted for now. We have the rights to it." So now that we just got done with Cannes, we can actually get it published. But I'll send you the link so that you can watch it and it'll be published by the time this is out.

Anthony Godfrey:
Great. “Sheet Talk”.

Kamiko Adcock:
Yep. “Sheet Talk”.

Anthony Godfrey:
Okay. So ‘Sheet Talk” got you to Cannes. Tell me about that experience. You said it was 10 days of just living your dream. Talk to me about that because I've gone to, I think it's now 21 years that I've gone in a row to Sundance. I love going to that film festival but Cannes is the granddaddy of them all. So tell me about that.

Kamiko Adcock:
It is like, so Cannes is headquartered kind of like right by the beach. There's what they call the Croisette, and it's got this massive 2,500-seat auditorium called the Grand Lumiére, which is ginormous. So that's where I watched Francis Ford Coppola's "Megalopolis," his new--

Anthony Godfrey:
You've seen it.

Kamiko Adcock:
I've seen it. We could chat about it.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow.

Kamiko Adcock:
It is. Yeah. It's quite the experience. And then they have the Lumiére and the Agnés Varda Theater with two massive convention halls behind it, and that's where the film marketplace is. So sellers, film sellers, film buyers can go back there and just making deals. I have a friend who works at Angel Studios, and he was there for about a week, and that's all he was doing was meeting with distributors where I got to do a little bit of both, and I got to watch a lot of films, and it's elegant.

After 6 o'clock p.m. at the Grand Lumiére Theater, you have to wear a tuxedo to all the films showing. So we got into the “Horizon” premiere, had to wear a tuxedo for that. We wore a tuxedo for our own, and we tried to get into another theater, but like if you're not in gala attire, they won't let you in. So that was cool. We all bought tuxedos because it was cheaper to buy them than to just rent for 14 days.

Anthony Godfrey:
My gala attire is lacking, so I really could not have joined you. So tell me about the experience of showing your--did you show your film there?

Kamiko Adcock:
We did. So there's the main two, three big theaters. There's the Riviera, which is one of the convention floors, and the Palais, which is a big convention floor that also has screenings. So we got a little screening room that they gave to the 48-hour film project to display our shorts. It was the Wednesday after we got there, so we'd already kind of been there for a week. And it was great. Like it was probably a 70-seat screening room, and to be able to watch our short with the best of the best festivals, you know, I think a lot of--I tell my students, it's like it's very easy to look in your neighborhood to see who's the best at filmmaking. And I know this sounds cliché, but the best is internationally. Like you're not just looking at your neighbor. You got to look at people in Hong Kong. You got to look at people in South Africa, in Africa, you know. And it was really gratifying to see that we were some of the best.

Anthony Godfrey:
And even though there's global competition, that unique idiosyncratic personal project can really shine if it hits just the right mark. So you were there for two weeks. How many movies would you say you saw? I think we saw 13 of the screenings.

Anthony Godfrey:
And did you get a pass as part of the fact that you were screening, or did you have to pay for that pass on top of that?

Kamiko Adcock:
We got two passes, so my friend who's the director got one of them. And then the writer and me, the producer, we flipped a coin best out of five, and he won the other free pass, so I paid for mine.

Anthony Godfrey:
Anyone in particular that you were really excited to either talk with or just spot from across the theater?

Kamiko Adcock:
There was one person, George Lucas, got an honorary Palme d’or at Cannes. And like, Star Wars is the reason I love movies. And so we waited in line for four hours to... So essentially you can get tickets for the screenings at that 7 a.m. when it opens to book your screenings, or you can wait in like a wait list line to see if you'll get it. It's pretty successful.

Anthony Godfrey:
Same thing with Sundance, yeah.

Kamiko Adcock:
Yeah, so we waited four hours in line with our passes to see him, and so I got to see George Lucas talk about filmmaking for an hour and a half.

Anthony Godfrey:
That is insane. That is so crazy that you got to see that.

Kamiko Adcock:
Probably the coolest experience I've maybe ever had. Filmmaking-wise, probably the best experience I've ever had.

Anthony Godfrey:
That is amazing.

Kamiko Adcock:
And he was... It was funny. He talked about Star Wars for a little bit, but he spent the majority of his time talking about American Graffiti and THX 1138.

Anthony Godfrey:
Those are the ones that really taught him a lot about filmmaking.

Kamiko Adcock:
Yeah, and he was... Francis Ford Coppola's PA on his old, old films when he was starting.

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow, yeah.

Kamiko Adcock:
So it was crazy to hear him refer to Steven Spielberg as Steve, or Martin Scorsese as Marty, because… You know, and that was great. And then we got to... We waited in line to get into Kevin Costner's “Horizon”, because we have some friends that are in it, so we really wanted to see the premiere. And we walked the red carpet. About 20 feet away from us was Michelle Yeoh from...

Anthony Godfrey:
Yeah, wow.

Kamiko Adcock:
“Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon” and “Anything Everywhere All At Once”

Anthony Godfrey:
Wow.

Kamiko Adcock:
And that was really cool.

Anthony Godfrey:
That's fantastic. Well, it's a real pleasure talking with you, and I'm thrilled that you're here at Copper Hills giving this experience to these students. Bringing that industry knowledge and really sparking something in students that they didn't realize was there. Thank you very much.

Kamiko Adcock:
I love it, thank you.

Anthony Godfrey:
Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Supercast. Remember, education is the most important thing you'll do today. We'll see you out there.